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Old 10-18-2022, 04:02 PM  
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***Official 2022-2023 NBA Thread***
Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.



Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:00 AM   #1306
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...flagrant_foul/

Check this one out from a few months ago. You can see Harden visibly throw his leg forward to draw a foul, likely hoping that Horford would come up under his landing point (which is exactly what happened). Horford draws a flagrant on review.

It's bullshit, yes (and it takes away a defender's ability to contest properly) but that's the NBA as it stands.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:09 AM   #1307
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Irrelevant. If you don’t give the shooter a place to land, it’s supposed to be called a flagrant foul in the NBA these days and has been called as such for a couple of years now. The Lakers were incredibly lucky to even get to overtime after that silly play.
This is another reason why some people don't like the NBA. They overprotect the 3point shooter. It is now mainly a 3point contest. 80% of these they didnt let the shooter land are even flops by THE SHOOTER.

College bball was calling auto fouls on these flops early in the year on this shit and it was FANTASTIC. Oh it was so good. Then they just quit doint it by January and players went back to their old flopping ways. CBB was effectively solving the problem but Czar Jay Bilas apparently didn't like it (you know a Dukie) so that was the end of it.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:14 AM   #1308
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:47 AM   #1309
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This is another reason why some people don't like the NBA. They overprotect the 3point shooter. It is now mainly a 3point contest. 80% of these they didnt let the shooter land are even flops by THE SHOOTER.

College bball was calling auto fouls on these flops early in the year on this shit and it was FANTASTIC. Oh it was so good. Then they just quit doint it by January and players went back to their old flopping ways. CBB was effectively solving the problem but Czar Jay Bilas apparently didn't like it (you know a Dukie) so that was the end of it.
Pretty sure sucky CBB has the same close out rules and believe I saw it called a couple of times in the tournament.
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Old 04-12-2023, 01:25 PM   #1310
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Ouch. So by that logic the 2 Lebron got in Miami don't count, I suppose.
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:04 PM   #1312
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Pretty sure sucky CBB has the same close out rules and believe I saw it called a couple of times in the tournament.
The problem isn't the rule - it's the enforcement. Same as roughing the passer.

The rule, as written, says to give the shooter an opportunity to land. Under any reasonable interpretation of that rule, what Davis did (and others) absolutely gave the shooter an opportunity to land.

Officials biting on guys jumping into contact is an enforcement problem, not a rule problem. And again, it's erratically enforced. Sometimes that gets called, sometimes it doesn't. Because there is contact on a dozen jumpers in every game, every night.

The rule was written to punish cheapshot artists like Patrick Beverly. Because it became a cottage industry after awhile. I think it was Jalen Rose that flat out admitted he stuck a leg under Bryant while he was shooting in a playoff game trying to roll his ankle.

They wrote it to eliminate intent hoping to get players to play defense differently and ultimately they have. But offensive players, as is often the case, are using a shield as a sword and are trying to get that foul called by doing that kind of shit where they put a leg out.

Many officials won't call it. Some will.
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Didn’t watch, but looks like Anthony Edwards had a disaster of a game
He gave them almost nothing offensively, but his defense was pretty good. Conley was excellent across the board.
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The problem isn't the rule - it's the enforcement. Same as roughing the passer.

The rule, as written, says to give the shooter an opportunity to land. Under any reasonable interpretation of that rule, what Davis did (and others) absolutely gave the shooter an opportunity to land.

Officials biting on guys jumping into contact is an enforcement problem, not a rule problem. And again, it's erratically enforced. Sometimes that gets called, sometimes it doesn't. Because there is contact on a dozen jumpers in every game, every night.

The rule was written to punish cheapshot artists like Patrick Beverly. Because it became a cottage industry after awhile. I think it was Jalen Rose that flat out admitted he stuck a leg under Bryant while he was shooting in a playoff game trying to roll his ankle.

They wrote it to eliminate intent hoping to get players to play defense differently and ultimately they have. But offensive players, as is often the case, are using a shield as a sword and are trying to get that foul called by doing that kind of shit where they put a leg out.

Many officials won't call it. Some will.
Agreed. Great comparison with the roughing the passer penalty.
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NBA confirms the foul on AD from last night.
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NBA confirms the foul on AD from last night.
Didn't the NFL also confirm the late hit penalty Jones had on Carr?
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Didn't the NFL also confirm the late hit penalty Jones had on Carr?
You’re comparing the same play that’s been called a foul for years in the NBA now to that Chris Jones play which was unlike anything anybody had ever seen called?
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You’re comparing the same play that’s been called a foul for years in the NBA now to that Chris Jones play which was unlike anything anybody had ever seen called?
So you agreed with the NFL?
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So you agreed with the NFL?
Of course not. I don’t agree with the NBA calling all of these as fouls either, but that’s what they are in this NBA and have been for years now.
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