***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Fortunately we are no where near that right now.

If we’re if the mindset that the number of positives right now is about 10x what is being reported, wed already be in the millions

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Yes I can.

I've said it before you don't want to panic over the CornonaVirus. Take every precaution you can, stay informed, practice social distance and stay productive at home. There's not much else you can do.

That said comparing it to the flu isn't the way to go right now.

People get use to it.

We knew, or most did, that a lot of people died of pneumonia every year. May not have known the ballpark or exact figure but they were aware. Just a "normal" part of life.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

People get use to it.

We knew, or most did, that a lot of people died of pneumonia every year. May not have known the ballpark or exact figure but they were aware. Just a "normal" part of life.

Yep.

Everyone dies just a question of when and how.

[Loneiguana]

The first US death from the Coronavirus was four weeks ago today on February 29. It took 27 days to go from 1 death to 1,000 deaths in the US.

Now the US is over 2,000 deaths. That second 1,000 deaths took less than 3 days.

Exponential growth.

We didn't start social distancing until March 14th. That means we have 13-14 more days of exponential growth. This is going to EXPLODE. 500x2x2x2= 4000 dead. A day.

25 days from 1 to 1,000 also means 25 days from 1,000 to 1,000,000 (April 19th).

[Chief Roundup]

Crazy that we only have 1,000 more recovered than deaths.

[notorious]

So now a million are going to be dead in 3 weeks.


Sorry, I don't believe it.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, let's hope he is wrong

Agreed.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by notorious

So now a million are going to be dead in 3 weeks.


Sorry, I don't believe it.

I don't think it will be near that, but you need to prepare yourself for the possibility that this is going to be one of the hardest months in this nation's history.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we’re if the mindset that the number of positives right now is about 10x what is being reported, wed already be in the millions

That goes both ways. The more people who have it that aren't requiring any kind of treatment reduces the overall percentage of those that do.

In other words the more people who have it that aren't sick or going to the hospital is maybe not such a bad thing.

so if we are in the millions with 2,200 deaths. How many 10's of millions have to get it before we reach the 200,000 death toll?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by notorious

So now a million are going to be dead in 3 weeks.


Sorry, I don't believe it.

Who is saying that?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by notorious

So now a million are going to be dead in 3 weeks.


Sorry, I don't believe it.

Where the hell did you get that information from?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think it will be near that, but you need to prepare yourself for the possibility that this is going to be one of the hardest months in this nation's history.

Absolutely.

I'm still holding on to my optimism.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Where the hell did you get that information from?

You probably have that person on ignore.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by notorious

So now a million are going to be dead in 3 weeks.


Sorry, I don't believe it.

I tend to lean towards this myself. People are playing with the numbers to suit an outcome. Not saying Fauci is per say.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Donger

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government’s foremost infection disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, says the U.S. will certainly have “millions of cases” of COVID-19 and more than 100,000 deaths.

As the U.S. tops the world in reported infections from the new coronavirus, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases predicts 100,000-200,000 deaths from the outbreak in the U.S.

The U.S. is currently reporting more than 124,000 cases and more than 2,100 deaths.

Fauci was speaking to CNN’s “State of the Union” as the federal government is discussing rolling back guidelines on social distancing in areas that have not been hard-hit by the outbreak.

Fauci says he would only support the rollback in lesser-impacted areas if there is enhanced availability of testing in place to monitor those areas. He acknowledged “it’s a little iffy there” right now.

link please