***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

Great, so what's your prediction?

I predict this thread will get a mods attention.

[notorious]

Why even post it?

What was your reasoning?

We all know exactly what you were trying to do.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

What's yours?

I gave mine way back: a few hundred thousand cases and 5 to 10,000 dead.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats the way I took what he said too.

Clarification would be nice. This is no time to be trying to interpret what people actually mean when they say things.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by Donger

I gave mine way back: a few hundred thousand cases and 5 to 10,000 dead.

And I gave mine about two posts above the one you responded to.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by notorious

Why even post it?

What was your reasoning?

We all know exactly what you were trying to do.

Dont get mad at the math bro. That growth we warned about? Happened. The steps we are taking? That is why. We dont want that.

Flatten the curve.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

And I gave mine about two posts above the one you responded to.

I don't see your prediction with totals.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't see your prediction with totals.

I anit a gambler looking for over under. Especially with the fact we basically have 50 different state experiments atm.

I predict we will largely follow the growth of other countries as more of america goes knock down.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

I anit a gambler looking for over under. Especially with the fact we basically have 50 different state experiments atm.

I predict we will largely follow the growth of other countries as more of america goes knock down.

Bold prediction.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Fortunately we are no where near that right now.

We’re not (and that is fortunate) but everyone seems to think this is more transmissible than the flu and that the mortality rate will end up being some magnitude worst than flu. Just based on those assumptions, even when factoring all the steps we’re taking to slow the infection, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that there may be millions of cases and hundreds of thousands of deaths.

[Donger]

Video of Dr. Fauci telling @jaketapper that "Looking at what we're seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases... excuse me, deaths. I mean, we're going to have millions of cases." #CNNSOTU

These next few weeks could be pretty rough.pic.twitter.com/Vh6xB4Fele

— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) March 29, 2020

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

We’re not (and that is fortunate) but everyone seems to think this is more transmissible than the flu and that the mortality rate will end up being some magnitude worst than flu. Just based on those assumptions, even when factoring all the steps we’re taking to slow the infection, it should surprise anyone that there may be millions of cases and hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Should or shouldn't?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Clarification would be nice. This is no time to be trying to interpret what people actually mean when they say things.

you can watch it for yourself at Dongers link below.

Originally Posted by Donger

Video of Dr. Fauci telling @jaketapper that "Looking at what we're seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases... excuse me, deaths. I mean, we're going to have millions of cases." #CNNSOTU

These next few weeks could be pretty rough.pic.twitter.com/Vh6xB4Fele

— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) March 29, 2020

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Donger

Should or shouldn't?

Shouldn’t.

Posting from a phone that thinks it knows better.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Donger

Fauci didn't say a million dead. Nor did he mention a timeline. He said millions of cases and 100 to 200,000 dead. I presume he means over the entire course of the outbreak.

Just watched the video and I hope he means world wide