Mellinger: Marcus Peters is gone. The Chiefs have some explaining to do.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

What am I gonna get in return for buying my first jersey in at least a decade? ****ing loved rocking my fairly new MP22 Jersey. The Clarks owe me a new jersey. If I knew buying a jersey would end this way, I woulda got a ****ing Sutton jersey.

"At least it would be something that didn’t leave the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature by avoiding discomfort even as it sets them back competitively."

Check me on this-- Is Sam saying many in the Chiefs fan base are....deplorable? And the Chiefs appear to have taken cues from bigots to make this particular personnel decision?

If that's what Sam suspects, that's quite a charge. Some might call it ugly.

I don't like Sam's insinuation the Chiefs caved to racist Chiefs fans. At all. To end his piece with that accusation not only isn't helpful, it's divisive and irresponsible. How do the Chiefs defend themselves?

Here's a thought: Peters may have been a poor fit for this locker room. He was kicked off his team in college. Was there subtle racism in that decision? Did Washington cave to a Neanderthal fan or alumni base? Or, was Peters out of line and deserved his punishment?

There's an arrogance and condescending tone to Sam's piece that I find off-putting. He has painted the top people in the Chiefs organization as weak, uncaring, cynical, and lacking character. Sam wanted Bob Sutton fired. Fine. Many of us would have welcomed that. But Andy Reid saw a different, more pressing problem: His defense was too old, too slow, and too soft. We also know Peters quit on his team and had to be suspended for, perhaps, for more than what happened on the field of play. So maybe his locker room was in trouble-- and that's not up for a vote. If Reid suspects his message or Sutton's isn't respected, he has to make changes. That's true in any company.

Sam obviously doesn't like the way Andy Reid is running his team and the defensive side of the ball. Got it. Good topic for all. But this?

"the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature"

Really? Where do we go from here?

Reid/Veach decided to rebuild their defense. But, not the way Sam declared necessary. Now that the Chiefs have traded Peters (accommodated Peter's request?), Sam says their motives are toxic, not the player who has a history of toxicity-- and I'm not talking about the anthem. I don't have to. There's so many other incidents to justify a trade. A trade that hasn't been announced.

The Chiefs drafted Peters. That's on them. If they move him and get fair value, what the hell is wrong with that? They are trying to correct a past mistake. A drafting mistake. We don't even know what we got back for Peters. Why write the article when the transaction isn't known beyond that a trade was agreed to? Why publish an insidious charge regarding the character of those running the Chiefs? It's hard to unring that bell. Does Sam know something we don't?

Marcus Peters is loaded with talent. Maybe he'll be a Hall of Fame DB. But the decision to move this particular player isn't prima facie evidence the Chiefs caved to a vocal, racist fan base.

This is something the writer should have to defend. He leveled the charge. Sam-- a brilliant writer-- does not stand on higher moral ground. Yes, there are some fans who harbor prejudice, but to accuse the Chiefs to caving to that distinct minority is a bridge too far. For me.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon

"At least it would be something that didn’t leave the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature by avoiding discomfort even as it sets them back competitively."

Check me on this-- Is Sam saying many in the Chiefs fan base are....deplorable? And the Chiefs appear to have taken cues from bigots to make this particular personnel decision?

If that's what Sam suspects, that's quite a charge. Some might call it ugly.

I don't like Sam's insinuation the Chiefs caved to racist Chiefs fans. At all. To end his piece with that accusation not only isn't helpful, it's divisive and irresponsible. How do the Chiefs defend themselves?

Here's a thought: Peters may have been a poor fit for this locker room. He was kicked off his team in college. Was there subtle racism in that decision? Did Washington cave to a Neanderthal fan or alumni base? Or, was Peters out of line and deserved his punishment?

There's an arrogance and condescending tone to Sam's piece that I find off-putting. He has painted the top people in the Chiefs organization as weak, uncaring, cynical, and lacking character. Sam wanted Bob Sutton fired. Fine. Many of us would have welcomed that. But Andy Reid saw a different, more pressing problem: His defense was too old, too slow, and too soft. We also know Peters quit on his team and had to be suspended for, perhaps, for more than what happened on the field of play. So maybe his locker room was in trouble-- and that's not up for a vote. If Reid suspects his message or Sutton's isn't respected, he has to make changes. That's true in any company.

Sam obviously doesn't like the way Andy Reid is running his team and the defensive side of the ball. Got it. Good topic for all. But this?

"the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature"

Really? Where do we go from here?

Reid/Veach decided to rebuild their defense. But, not the way Sam declared necessary. Now that the Chiefs have traded Peters (accommodated Peter's request?), Sam says their motives are toxic, not the player who has a history of toxicity-- and I'm not talking about the anthem. I don't have to. There's so many other incidents to justify a trade. A trade that hasn't been announced.

The Chiefs drafted Peters. That's on them. If they move him and get fair value, what the hell is wrong with that? They are trying to correct a past mistake. A drafting mistake. We don't even know what we got back for Peters. Why write the article when the transaction isn't known beyond that a trade was agreed to? Why publish an insidious charge regarding the character of those running the Chiefs? It's hard to unring that bell. Does Sam know something we don't?

Marcus Peters is loaded with talent. Maybe he'll be a Hall of Fame DB. But the decision to move this particular player isn't prima facie evidence the Chiefs caved to a vocal, racist fan base.

This is something the writer should have to defend. He leveled the charge. Sam-- a brilliant writer-- does not stand on higher moral ground. Yes, there are some fans who harbor prejudice, but to accuse the Chiefs to caving to that distinct minority is a bridge too far. For me.

Interesting take....one I hadn't thought about but makes you take pause and think.

Besides your take on this, Mellinger comes off as a guy who is pissed he wasn't let in on the deal ahead of time and still hasn't.

[jspchief]

Lol at the the Donald speculation. And they aren't getting a first either. I'll bet dollars to dimes that this is a net loss in talent.

[MahiMike]

wah wah wah.

[srvy]

Its going to be interesting to see how Wade deals with Marcus. He is pretty low keyed and lets the guys play and have fun. But he expects you to be physical I wonder what his first impression of Ole' will be.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by srvy

Its going to be interesting to see how Wade deals with Marcus. He is pretty low keyed and lets the guys play and have fun. But he expects you to be physical I wonder what his first impression of Ole' will be.

Maybe he'll coach him. Wonder if Sutton could sit in.

[RunKC]

Even if it’s a 3rd or 4th, Veach might just see it as capitol to move up for a player in the 2nd rd.

Lot of good CB’s coming out this year. An early 2nd rd pick will net us a quality starting corner.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Even if it’s a 3rd or 4th, Veach might just see it as capitol to move up for a player in the 2nd rd.

Lot of good CB’s coming out this year. An early 2nd rd pick will net us a quality starting corner.

Yeah. If they're lucky they'll get a talented CB... like the one they are giving away.

[RunKC]

And at least Peters doesn’t have to worry about being heckled by fans anymore.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by RunKC

And at least Peters doesn’t have to worry about being heckled by fans anymore.

But that will all change with the new multi billion dollar stadium.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by srvy

But that will all change with the new multi billion dollar stadium.

Dumb

[srvy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dumb

I suppose we will see.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by srvy

I suppose we will see.

More than 103,000 people showed up at the Rams first preseason game in 2016, breaking the NFL All Time attendance record.

Jeff Fisher then did the Jeff Fisher thing and put a shitty product on the field.

In 2017, McVay and Goff led the Rams to their first playoff game and division title since 2003.

The Coliseum will always appear empty for an NFL game because it seats 104,000. There are zero restaurants, zero club level seating or suites - pretty much absolutely nothing enticing other than the product on the field.

Kroenke World will be the NFL's crown jewel and as long as the Rams are putting a good product on the field, the stadium will sell at least 70,000 of its 72,000 seats.

[Red Dawg]

Man, **** Marcus Peters. All this shit is on him. All of it!