KU KU drops to No. 18 in coaches’ poll; MU leaps to 10th - Page 9

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-16-2009, 03:23 PM

It's all in fun people, lighten up.

Tiger's Fan · 02-16-2009, 03:45 PM

The game in Lawrence, even with Ed Hightower on the crew, is going to border on being a clown stomp, unless we have 30 TO's. That given, what are the MUrons gonna do after we win again in Arrowhead this year? I see epic meltdown.

Spott · 02-16-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

The game in Lawrence, even with Ed Hightower on the crew, is going to border on being a clown stomp, unless we have 30 TO's. That given, what are the MUrons gonna do after we win again in Arrowhead this year? I see epic meltdown.

They don't play in Arrowhead next year. The only team that will be losing in Arrowhead next year will be the Chiefs(lots of times).

Tiger's Fan · 02-16-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

They don't play in Arrowhead next year. The only team that will be losing in Arrowhead next year will be the Chiefs(lots of times).

We're both signed to play there till 2012?
Something like that.

Tiger's Fan · 02-16-2009, 04:36 PM

I pole vaulted out of bed this morning FTW!!!!

Reerun_KC · 02-16-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

I pole vaulted out of bed this morning FTW!!!!

Yeah well MU fan pole vaulted off the couch did a 1/2 gainer and landed in the recliner with remote in hand....

Only reason you vaulted out of bed is because of corrupt stadium owners...

KChiefs1 · 02-16-2009, 05:46 PM

There is no debate about which university has the best overall athletic program.

MIZZOU TIGERS!

**Lzen** · 02-17-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

There is no debate about which university has the best overall athletic program.

MIZZOU TIGERS!

Yeah, cause obviously KU's many Big 12 conference titles, 3 Final Fours including a hoops national title just this decade, a BCS bowl win, and 4 bowls overall in the past 6 years don't mean anything. And that's without even mentioning KU's brand new $30 million athletic facility.

Pablo · 02-17-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, cause obviously KU's many Big 12 conference titles, 3 Final Fours including a hoops national title just this decade, a BCS bowl win, and 4 bowls overall in the past 6 years don't mean anything. And that's without even mentioning KU's brand new $30 million athletic facility.

Eh...they're really good at wrestling...

**petegz28** · 02-16-2009, 05:48 PM

Yes, way too high for MU ....but I'll take it!

joesomebody · 02-16-2009, 05:55 PM

Sorry if a repost, but good read if you are a Mizzou fan... they are setting us up for one of our heartbreak seasons we love so much.

http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/616

Tiger fans can
wear their stripes
with pride this season.

Meteoric Mizzou: THIS is why you pay attention to statistics
In two weeks, Missouri has gone from the in college basketball's most underrated team to the team that suddenly has everybody's attention. In the polls released Monday, the Tigers are ranked 10th and 11th, respectively. Two weeks ago, Mizzou was unranked. That's an ascension that Charles Foster Kane would be proud of. However, if you paid any attention to the numbers, you already knew this was going to happen.

Missouri has been ranked in the top 20 of Ken Pomeroy's ratings for pretty much the entire season. Ken's numbers loved the Tigers through the Illinois debacle, through the free-throw meltdown against Xavier, the offensive drought against Nebraska and the best-shooting night of the season by Kansas State. The numbers were why I knew that the loss in Manhattan was more meaningful for the Wildcats than the Tigers. The numbers were why I knew over two months ago that the Tigers were a tournament-caliber team.

Pomeroy ranks teams based on adjusted winning percentages. He measures the points per possession scored and allowed for each opponent, adjusts each for quality of component, then calculates the new winning percentage based on those efficiency margins. The adjusted winning percentage is called the Pythagorean percentage. This percentage can be taken literally, meaning that Missouri's .9585 Pythagorean score means that the true quality of the Tigers this season is that of a team which should win 95.85% of its games against average D1 teams at neutral sites. Why do I hype Pomeroy's ratings so much? Because they work.

I pen that justification for tempo-free basketball statistics as justification for a little bit of analysis. Now that the perception (the polls) has caught up to the reality (power rankings), what does the latter suggest about the Tigers' eventual March destiny?

Let's assume that Missouri maintains its current Pythagorean rating, which certainly is no given being that two of the its final five regular-season games are in Lawrence and at home against Oklahoma. Pomeroy has Pythagoran ratings going back three seasons prior to this one, so it gives us an OK sample of how teams that play at this level fare in the NCAA tournament. However, it won't be a large enough sample to be conclusive.

TOURNAMENT RESULTS OF >.9585 TEAMS
Year	Teams	S16	E8	FF	NC	CH
2006	6	5	4	2	1	1
2007	11	8	7	4	2	1
2008	11	8	6	4	2	1
TOT	28	21	17	10	5	3
%CHANCE		75%	61%	36%	18%	11%

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Again, this is a small sample size, Tiger fans, so don't go thumping your chests just yet about the imminent trip to the Final Four. However, it's pretty obvious that Mizzou is entering rarified air. Of the 28 teams the last three years that have played at this level, 21 (75%) reached the Sweet 16 and 17 (61%) made the Elite 8. The group also accounts for the last three NCAA champions, five of the six teams to reach the championship game and 10 of the 12 Final Four squads.

The NCAA tournament is still a month or so away, but, for Tiger fans, there may really be a reason to go mad this March.

Zebedee DuBois · 02-16-2009, 06:12 PM

I don't see what the rumpus is about.

Sam Hall · 02-16-2009, 07:01 PM

The only question is when will we see the epic meltdown from Mizzou.

j/k

**KcMizzou** · 02-16-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

The only question is when will we see the epic meltdown from Mizzou.

j/k

It is true that we don't have a lot of tradition.

If you'd told me that this Mizzou team would be where they are right now, I'd have taken it in a heart beat. (and thought you were a little silly.)

This season has been a huge success so far. I have to admit that #10 sounds a little high even to me.

They'll make the tourney, barring an epic collapse... anything after that is gravy.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-16-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

It is true that we don't have a lot of tradition.

If you'd told me that this Mizzou team would be where they are right now, I'd have taken it in a heart beat. (and thought you were a little silly.)

This season has been a huge success so far. I have to admit that #10 sounds a little high even to me.

They'll make the tourney, barring an epic collapse... anything after that is gravy.

Question:

Have you noticed that minus Frazod, every MU fan sooner rather than later gave props to the KU football team for the win at this years Border War, yet MU gets a win at home over their rival, and the Beakers go in to Turbo Douchenozzle Mode?

I sure as **** have.

New Slogan:

"KU Fans/Alumni; spoiled suburban douchebaggery, all the way to the apocalypse"!

Yep; that'd make a fine credit card, liscense plate, or collection of patio furnature, me thinks.

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