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Old 11-23-2022, 12:18 PM  
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How do you define a sports dynasty and what does this current Chiefs team need to do
Been considering this a bit lately. Generally speaking I’d have considered any sports team that wins three championships in a five-ish year period a true dynasty.

The Patriots have two, obviously, early 2000s and then the mid 2010s. Early 90s Cowboys. 49ers in the 80s and Steelers in the 70s, IIRC.

Then I was considering things and wondering what we’d need to accomplish in order to be labeled a dynasty. We’ve currently got the one Super Bowl win from the 2019 season. It’s now the 2022 season.

We’ve hosted four straight AFCCGs in that timespan as well. Does that factor in at all or is it solely based on Super Bowl wins?

I think it does a bit. For example, if we’re able to win the Super Bowl this year, I think I would consider us a dynasty.

But I don’t consider the 90s Bills a dynasty so clearly at least one or two actual Super Bowl wins is a requirement.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:15 AM   #121
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This is for sure a dynasty. 2 out of 3 SBs in 5 years and the AFC Championship game at home every one of them?
Period. Dynasty.

They're not going to be denied a third Super Bowl in the next five years, at the most.

The only question now is how close they can get to Brady & Bill.

Minimum, Mahomes and Reid tie Montana's crew. They're too good, and too young.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:15 AM   #122
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I wanted to revisit this and get everyone’s thoughts now.

I know many will still claim we have yet to hit dynasty status, claiming we would need three Super Bowl wins within a 5-year span to do it.

.. but idk. I’m torn. I definitely think we could be considered a dynasty at present. I think hosting five straight AFC Championship games and going to three Super Bowls in five years is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Now that the dust has settled on this season:
AFCCG OT loss
SB Win
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SB win

What do you think? Do you consider this a dynasty or a budding dynasty with more work required to be solidified?
I agree.

People are way too rigid in this whole "3 in 5" thing. You have to look at it holistically.

3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 wins, 5 straight AFCCG, all at home, 3 wins.

This is already a dynasty.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:18 AM   #123
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I'm sure this has been said but I honestly don't think you can define a dynasty until its over. Once Reid retires maybe we can look back at his time with KC and see how it looks.

Mahomes could easily be part of multiple dynasties.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:19 AM   #124
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Erase one Dee Ford lineup ****up and one ****ed up injured Oline at the end of the season and we could have been in 4 Super Bowls with 3-4 wins.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:19 AM   #125
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Unlike in the NBA, you cannot just bring the same players back and expect a repeat. The Chiefs only have a dozen players left from the last Super Bowl team. You have to keep making moves to stay ahead of the game. That might involve hurting some feelings and cutting or trading popular players, but that's how the Patriots maintained success so long.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:19 AM   #126
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I think 6 seasons would be the cutoff. Especially if you're in conference championships every year.

History has shown us that there is a franchise every decade that wins at least 3.

We're going to be this decade's dynasty...
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:21 AM   #127
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Erase one Dee Ford lineup ****up and one ****ed up injured Oline at the end of the season and we could have been in 4 Super Bowls with 3-4 wins.
It's hard to say that. Losing can be a big motivator. If the Chiefs win in 2018, are you sure they repeat in 2019? Do they still make the same moves in free agency and trades?
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:23 AM   #128
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I'm sticking with 3 in 5 to be a true dynasty.
That's the consensus in most sports. They're either already a dynasty or pretty damn close.
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Unlike in the NBA, you cannot just bring the same players back and expect a repeat. The Chiefs only have a dozen players left from the last Super Bowl team. You have to keep making moves to stay ahead of the game. That might involve hurting some feelings and cutting or trading popular players, but that's how the Patriots maintained success so long.
Yep. There are some guys like Juju that I kind of want to keep, but I really hope we say **** off to any and all "RUN IT BACK!" shit.

That crap doesn't work.
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Old 02-13-2023, 10:26 AM   #131
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I'm sure this has been said but I honestly don't think you can define a dynasty until its over. Once Reid retires maybe we can look back at his time with KC and see how it looks.

Mahomes could easily be part of multiple dynasties.
Well I think you can start by saying we’re already a dynasty. It is already a great dynasty. The question is how great.

I’d say we moved our dynasty forward in a crucial way yesterday. Not just back to back super bowls, but we’ve officially distanced ourselves from drew Brees / Russell Wilson territory. We’ve proven we can win a Super Bowl while mahomes was “free” and after the new cap reality.

So now we’re no longer being compared to an average dynasty. Now we spend the next few years comparing to the next level. Dynasties like SF and Dallas. And after that we set our sights on New England.
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It's interesting hearing everyone's opinion.

I don't begrudge anyone for sticking to the "3 rings in 5 seasons" rule. That has seemed to be in place for quite some time.

But I agree that I think I consider this a dynasty as is, and here's why I'm leaning that way:

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People are way too rigid in this whole "3 in 5" thing. You have to look at it holistically.

3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 wins, 5 straight AFCCG, all at home, 3 wins.
We are, and have been, THE team of the late 2010s-early 2020s.

Clearly we're different from near-dynasties like the early 70s Dolphins (they're close, especially with the perfect season, but they had a few seasons where they got kicked out of the Divisional Round or missed the playoffs entirely in their run) or 90s Bills (never won a SB).
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