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Best22 · 07:50 AM

For me, it's easy.

The only NFL franchise with fewer Conference Championship appearances is the Houston Texans (est. 2002). The Chiefs and Lions are tied with 1 (and the Lions are a pure garbage franchise with 1 playoff victory since 1958 and a host of other embarrassment, only franchise in NFL that is clearly inferior to the Chiefs)

Here's why it hurts. With Superbowl wins, well, you have around 30 teams, and the game has only been around since 1966. With our SB IV trophy, we are still on track for one every 32 years. Okay then. I don't see that as a proper way to show the Chiefs incompetence as a franchise

But the AFCCG. There are 16 AFC teams. That means 1 of 8 teams play in it. So, mathematically, we should be there once every 8 years. Instead, for KC it has been once every 48 years. That's what bothers me the most about this franchise. Chargers have been there 4 times. Donks and Faiders, lol, I ain't counting all that

So get a team that is actually capable of winning big in the playoffs and maybe just maybe we will appear in that game once again...

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2017, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I would like to see Haley get another shot with a sane, non-paranoid GM.

Agreed. His offense would sputter because his offensive scheme is terrible. But it would be a well coached team. I don't understand people who give him shit for being tough on players. I don't know if there are many ex players that hold a grudge with him, and supposedly he and big Ben are close despite all the rumors that they couldn't get along.

jimidollar · 12-09-2017, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

0-7 Dolphins-31
Chiefs-3

2011, Arrowhead Stadium

Shameful.

Haleys offense has the best receiver, best running back + Roethlisberger yet they score fewer points than the Chiefs

Hard pass

****. That was the last game I attended or will ever attend. It broke me.

ROYC75 · 12-09-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm 41 and I'm telling you that you won't.

YOU WON'T.

60 and counting.

TBHH, I was 12 when we won it!

ILChief · 12-09-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Agreed. His offense would sputter because his offensive scheme is terrible. But it would be a well coached team. I don't understand people who give him shit for being tough on players. I don't know if there are many ex players that hold a grudge with him, and supposedly he and big Ben are close despite all the rumors that they couldn't get along.

Bernard Pollard isn't a fan I don't believe

Steron · 12-09-2017, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It seems that ever since Marty/King Carl Peterson days there has not been much cohesion between head coach and GM and the general direction and balance of the team.

Gunther - way over his head as head coach.

Vermeil - brought in originally on a 3 year "win now" window. He picked the wrong DC. Then, was given Gunther as DC and the big name free agent approach to immediately fix the D didn't work.

Edwards - Over his head. Should have been apparent from his days with the Jets but the Hunt family is slow to learn. Inherited an old team. When he finally got some of his own players and sacrificed a year of giving a lot of young guys playing time he was fired.

Haley & Pioli - Should never have been paired together. One of the worst matches in history. Felix and Oscar.

Romeo Crennel - Good DC, not head coach material. Should have been apparent to the Hunt family, but they aren't the quickest learners.

Andy Reid & Dorsey - Another bad GM and HC pairing apparently.

All the while the above is occurring you have a franchise failure to draft and develop its own QB.

All of this.

Steron · 12-09-2017, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

It’s there, just need to stick through it just a little longer.

How many 3 or 5 year plans did King Carl have?

**TimeForWasp** · 12-10-2017, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Pretty much nailed it.

I was fine with trying a young new Head coach with Todd Haley,... but when Pioli strapped him to a bunch of shit QB's he didn't want to work with, he went into "I don't give a ****ing shit mode".

I blame Pioli for Haleys mess.

Haley brought some good production out of players and has since gone on to keep the Steelers going as one of the most dynamic offenses in the NFL.

yeah, I wan't ready to move on from Haley at the time.

Ron Swanson · 12-10-2017, 02:24 AM

Clark Hunt

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2017, 04:29 AM

Todd Haley

Dumb****s

**bevischief** · 12-10-2017, 05:29 AM

The Hunt family

**Nzoner** · 12-10-2017, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I used to let each loss get me down. In fact there was a time when it would take me days to get over it, almost make me sick.

The Pinnacle of that was the ****ing we took at the hands of the officials and John Elway in the 97/98 Playoffs.

Then again after the 2003 season at the hands of Indy and Peyton.

Now, after watching them for so many years, almost nothing they do bothers me.

They have kept doing the same thing, over and over, and over, and over again.

It is what it is, entertainment.

That being said, Peters did bother me this season. To see him intentionally dog it, pissed me off. I am even over that now. Not a ****ing thing I can do about it.

Pretty much all of this.I remember being a STH and how those play-off losses would crush me for weeks always questioning how and why.

After years of reading books and watching numerous other games besides KC a light finally came on and I too realized the entire sport is nothing but entertainment and unfortunately I chose to follow a team that is nothing but a character actor in this massive production called the NFL.

Molitoth · 12-10-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Todd Haley

Dumb****s

Yes, we know you hate Todd Haley.

Although I'd love to hear your argument on how Pioli set him up in the position to succeed...

Palko, Cassel, Thigpen.

lawrenceRaider · 12-10-2017, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We tried the whole young first time HC path with Haley and it was an epic. Disaster.

I actually think that was more on the GM, not the HC.

lawrenceRaider · 12-10-2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Yes, we know you hate Todd Haley.

Although I'd love to hear your argument on how Pioli set him up in the position to succeed...

Palko, Cassel, Thigpen.

All of this. Pioli was the stink that caused Haley to fail. I really don't think Haley had any chance of real success with Pioli picking the players.

**notorious** · 12-10-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

I actually think that was more on the GM, not the HC.

It was as toxic of environment as I've seen.

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