Time to trade Jared Allen... - Page 9

htismaqe · 03-28-2007, 09:31 AM

With the latest news from his agent, it's time to shop the guy hard to Atlanta to see if we can get the Schaub picks.

Anybody agree?

Archie Bunker · 03-28-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I trust Allen will stay in shape while he's not here.

If the concert pic from last year is any indication I'm not so sure he will.

Chiefnj · 03-28-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Exactly. He hasn't shown the ability to learn from his mistakes. I'm not sure this time will be any different and honestly it is not worth the gamble to find out.

What gamble?

Archie Bunker · 03-28-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

What gamble?

Passing on much needed picks in hope that Allen stays clean is a gamble.

Messier · 03-28-2007, 03:46 PM

I don't think he's going anywhere. And if we did trade him we would just have to use the picks we got to get another DE, and might, or more likely, might not be as good as Allen. That's dumb.

**HemiEd** · 03-28-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Allen is past his prime?? He's coming off a second day rookie contract. This is the exact type of player that good teams keep - a player that is still young, is still improving and is proven in the system.

Exactly, if we get rid of Allen we are making a big mistake! He said on his interview with Carlota69 that he had not had a drink in 5 or 6 months. I wish we had 20 more like him.

Archie Bunker · 03-28-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Exactly, if we get rid of Allen we are making a big mistake! He said on his interview with Carlota69 that he had not had a drink in 5 or 6 months. I wish we had 20 more like him.

I'm not saying Allen is dishonest but what else would he say?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-28-2007, 04:16 PM

I don't have a big problem with this news from Jared's camp. I think they're just grasping at straws to find some leverage at this point.

I can appreciate the folks who want him gone though. It does show that many of us put quality of the person over quality of play... which I think is a refreshing thing in today's world of sports.

Crashride · 03-28-2007, 04:31 PM

It would hurt to have allen gone. Him and hali make a great team and when we finnaly get some bruiser dts our defense will be one of the best for a while since were young, minus law and surtain of course.

**Easy 6** · 03-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Not no, but, HELL NO!!!

WHEN was the last time we had TWO outstanding DE's??? So now we just dump one??? NEIN!!!!!!

RedThat · 03-28-2007, 06:29 PM

Trade him.

And if you can get 2nd and 3rd round picks for him? Absolutely. You trade him.

I know there are a lot of Chiefs fans out there that love Allen. But, in all honesty, there are a handful of DE's that are better than him. And imo, some may praise the guy for his play, but lets be honest here, we are Chiefs fans, and I think the reason we say he is good is because he has been the best DE KC has had in years. I mean, he is a probowler compared to guys like Hicks, Holliday, and Clemons.

But if you compare him to a lot of other DE's in the league, he is probably average to above average. nothing more than a complimentary end with off field issues, and to top it off, complain about a new contract.

Get rid of him. We have no use for guys like that on this team. draft a DE with character, that has potential. I trust in Herms braintrust on defense. I think he can find a DE to replace Allen no problem.

Deberg_1990 · 03-28-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

. But, in all honesty, there are a handful of DE's that are better than him.

So which is it??? IM confused.....

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Originally Posted by RedBull

. But if you compare him to a lot of other DE's in the league, he is probably average to above average. nothing more than a complimentary end

milkman · 03-28-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Trade him.

And if you can get 2nd and 3rd round picks for him? Absolutely. You trade him.

I know there are a lot of Chiefs fans out there that love Allen. But, in all honesty, there are a handful of DE's that are better than him. And imo, some may praise the guy for his play, but lets be honest here, we are Chiefs fans, and I think the reason we say he is good is because he has been the best DE KC has had in years. I mean, he is a probowler compared to guys like Hicks, Holliday, and Clemons.

But if you compare him to a lot of other DE's in the league, he is probably average to above average. nothing more than a complimentary end with off field issues, and to top it off, complain about a new contract.

Get rid of him. We have no use for guys like that on this team. draft a DE with character, that has potential. I trust in Herms braintrust on defense. I think he can find a DE to replace Allen no problem.

I think some of you are underrating Allen.
The guy has been productive for 3 years playing on a crappyass defense.

That being said, I would make the trade.

unothadeal · 03-28-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Not no, but, HELL NO!!!

WHEN was the last time we had TWO outstanding DE's??? So now we just dump one??? NEIN!!!!!!

Agreed

unothadeal · 03-28-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I think we have other players we can build around, players with more natural talent, better upside, and without the off-the-field and behavioral issues.

Who?

htismaqe · 03-28-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kdog414141

Who?

I was specifically thinking of Hali and DJ when I typed that...

03-28-2007, 09:31 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8089900	Time to trade Jared Allen... With the latest news from his agent, it's time to shop the guy hard to Atlanta to see if we can get the Schaub picks. Anybody agree?
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03-28-2007, 03:46 PM	#124
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	I don't think he's going anywhere. And if we did trade him we would just have to use the picks we got to get another DE, and might, or more likely, might not be as good as Allen. That's dumb.
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03-28-2007, 04:16 PM	#127
Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I don't have a big problem with this news from Jared's camp. I think they're just grasping at straws to find some leverage at this point. I can appreciate the folks who want him gone though. It does show that many of us put quality of the person over quality of play... which I think is a refreshing thing in today's world of sports.
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03-28-2007, 04:31 PM	#128
Crashride We got DANCERS in tampa Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Casino cash: $10004900	It would hurt to have allen gone. Him and hali make a great team and when we finnaly get some bruiser dts our defense will be one of the best for a while since were young, minus law and surtain of course.
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03-28-2007, 05:37 PM	#129
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $-232225	Not no, but, HELL NO!!! WHEN was the last time we had TWO outstanding DE's??? So now we just dump one??? NEIN!!!!!!
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03-28-2007, 06:29 PM	#130
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Trade him. And if you can get 2nd and 3rd round picks for him? Absolutely. You trade him. I know there are a lot of Chiefs fans out there that love Allen. But, in all honesty, there are a handful of DE's that are better than him. And imo, some may praise the guy for his play, but lets be honest here, we are Chiefs fans, and I think the reason we say he is good is because he has been the best DE KC has had in years. I mean, he is a probowler compared to guys like Hicks, Holliday, and Clemons. But if you compare him to a lot of other DE's in the league, he is probably average to above average. nothing more than a complimentary end with off field issues, and to top it off, complain about a new contract. Get rid of him. We have no use for guys like that on this team. draft a DE with character, that has potential. I trust in Herms braintrust on defense. I think he can find a DE to replace Allen no problem.
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