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Old 09-27-2007, 05:43 AM  
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Breaking News: Racially Motivated Beating in Norfolk!
http://www.koco.com/video/14202233/index.html

Never mind, the attackers weren't white so it must have just been coincidental.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:48 PM   #121
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More often than not, whenever a white attacks a black it's a hate crime, when it's the other way around it's not.
And the facts are there to prove it.

I'm not saying there aren't injustices that go the other way to but seriously, let's call a spade a spade with double standard of labeling a crime a "hate crime".
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:50 PM   #122
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More often than not, whenever a white attacks a black it's a hate crime, when it's the other way around it's not.
Horseshit. That's an impossible to prove and down right racist claim without some serious mind reading. Or, at least, direct knowledge of each case. Which you don't have.

Let's stop assigning thoughts, beliefs and motivation to people depending on their skin color. Whatever it is. Assuming people are some way or not because of their pigment level is wrong.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:50 PM   #123
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The most interesting part about reactions to this and hate crime are that blacks are arrested and convicted of hate crime 10 x more than whites...I have the reference if anyone wants it
I find this hard to believe with the way the white man is treated in this society.

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And the facts are there to prove it.
The facts are where?

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Old 09-27-2007, 02:53 PM   #124
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Horseshit. That's an impossible to prove and down right racist claim without some serious mind reading. Or, at least, direct knowledge of each case. Which you don't have.

Let's stop assigning thoughts, beliefs and motivation to people depending on their skin color. Whatever it is. Assuming people are some way or not because of their pigment level is wrong.

And Horseshit is what color?????
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:53 PM   #125
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Heh, that was a poor choice of words given the topic.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:58 PM   #126
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And Horseshit is what color?????
Depends on what the horse is eating. Green is the color I remember seeing the most.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:10 PM   #127
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I'd like to see that. Are we talking charged under a hate crime statute or just labeled "hate crime"?

I'm sorry the study is drawing conclusions based upon statistics from the DOJ

"Department of Justice statistics have consistently indicated that about 80 percent of violent crimes are intra-racial while about 20 percent are inter-racial. An examination of those inter-racial crimes shows that black-on-white crimes of violence occurred over seven times as often as white-on-black crimes of violence over the first 20 years of the NCVS. More recently, the frequency of black-on-white violent crimes has become more than 10 times as prevalent as white-on-black violent crimes. This difference is accentuated by the fact that whites account for nearly 75 percent of the population while blacks account for less than 13 percent.....It is obvious that hate crimes constitute only a fraction of inter-racial crimes......one can see the proportion of white-on-black inter-racial crimes that are also bias motivated (hate crimes) would have to exceed the proportion of black-on-white inter-racial crimes that are also bias motivated by a ratio of over ten-fold in order to conclude that the former are actually more prevalent than the latter."

The unanticipated consequences of hate crime legislation
Adams and Toth

Judicature Volume 90, Number 3 2006

The whole article is enlightening and only 6 pages long

http://www.ajs.org/ajs/publications/...3/Toth_903.pdf
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:14 PM   #128
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As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:21 PM   #129
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There is already hate crime legislation

1990 Bush Sr. Signed the Hate Crimes Statistics Act which requires the US AG to collect hate crimes statistics

1994 Congress passed the Hate Crimes Sentencing Enhancement Act which allows federal judges to enhance a sentence by no less than three offense levels. protected classes are Race, Color, Religion, National Origin, Ethnicity, Gender, Disability or Sexual Orientation.

All states have various formes of this law some that date back to as early as the lates 70's and early 80's but vary greatly in who are the protected classes and what the punishment is
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:36 PM   #130
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:53 PM   #132
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God it's so ****ing hard being white. I mean, shit just hard. I feel the hardship.
Every day I wish I wasn't white because it's so ****ing hard. You know what I mean? Like everybody is out to get you because whites suck and it's hard.
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jesus christ, ****ing whining.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:18 PM   #134
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God it's so ****ing hard being white. I mean, shit just hard. I feel the hardship.
Every day I wish I wasn't white because it's so ****ing hard. You know what I mean? Like everybody is out to get you because whites suck and it's hard.
right?

jesus christ, ****ing whining.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:29 PM   #135
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The most interesting part about reactions to this and hate crime are that blacks are arrested and convicted of hate crime 10 x more than whites...I have the reference if anyone wants it
Nah, I don't care about statistics. I'm just going to wait until O' Reilly to see how I should think about this.
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