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Old 11-16-2008, 03:31 PM  
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1. RDE (no pass rush whatsoever)
2. RT (McIntsuck gives it up at least 3/4 times every game)
3. MLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle!!)
4. LDE (Hali should be a backup)
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7. Center (Niswanger just can't seem to get any push at all)
8. CB (Flowers is hasty,Carr is a viable nickle, we need an athletic #1 guy)
9. Safety (Morgan? McGraw? geesh ... we need a stud back there)
10. RG/DT a tie ... we still need more talent in our interior lines


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Old 11-16-2008, 05:15 PM   #121
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Morgan is going to be a very good player
If you like Morgan you'd probably think the team needs a SS, he's much more suited to be a FS.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:15 PM   #122
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We really need another great draft, and more picks
Well outside of Gonzalez, there is no one that we can trade outside of a young guy, who would actually net us any meaningful picks. The acquire more picks ship has sailed, and if we trade out of the top 5, I'll ****ing kill someone.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:16 PM   #123
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If you like Morgan you'd probably think the team needs a SS, he's much more suited to be a FS.
He can play either position. I actually believe we had this discussion last year and you said he was a better SS, and I said he could do either.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:17 PM   #124
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He can play either position. I actually believe we had this discussion last year and you said he was a better SS, and I said he could do either.
If I ever said I thought he was a SS I must have been high at the time, he's basically built like a big corner so I'd much rather he play FS.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:19 PM   #125
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Well outside of Gonzalez, there is no one that we can trade outside of a young guy, who would actually net us any meaningful picks. The acquire more picks ship has sailed, and if we trade out of the top 5, I'll ****ing kill someone.
I fully agree with you, especially when we are sitting on top of damn near $50 million in cap room to go out and get young stars to fill some of the holes we need.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:21 PM   #126
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Well outside of Gonzalez, there is no one that we can trade outside of a young guy, who would actually net us any meaningful picks. The acquire more picks ship has sailed, and if we trade out of the top 5, I'll ****ing kill someone.
They'll trade out to 12th and draft James Lauranitis.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:22 PM   #127
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He can play either position. I actually believe we had this discussion last year and you said he was a better SS, and I said he could do either.
Awesome.

So we'll probably draft him and move him to CB where he'll go on to be the next Warfield or Bartee.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:27 PM   #128
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:27 PM   #129
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Your and idiot.
Good argument.

By the way, when you call someone an idiot, you should probably use the right grammar.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:34 PM   #130
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Well outside of Gonzalez, there is no one that we can trade outside of a young guy, who would actually net us any meaningful picks. The acquire more picks ship has sailed, and if we trade out of the top 5, I'll ****ing kill someone.
If we ****ing pick someone because he's BPA, even though we don't have an immediate need for him, I'll be pissed too. Remember when we drafted Larry Johnson because he was BPA? Did you ever stop to think what this team could have been like if we instead went for Nick Barnett? LJ sat the bench for several years on a team that might have been one player away from a Super Bowl run.

Drafting a LT would essentially be legitimizing spending a #17 pick on a guard, and moving a productive left tackle out of position. Drafting a QB outside of Stafford is settling for a pick. Drafting a WR like Crabtree on a team that has 2 receivers playing very good football is something Matt Millen would do.

The only players I can justify sticking around for are Stafford and Orakpo, unless someone makes a huge leap, which is doubtful. Stafford will be gone and we're making a huge assumption that Orakpo will grade as a top 3 calibre DE--I still have doubts as to whether he is.

Otherwise, you're reaching. I would rather reach for a player we need, then stick around for someone we don't need or for someone that's going to push a productive player to the bench. And I would rather trade down and draft the guy we want at the right spot and get extra picks on the side than reach.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:36 PM   #131
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You think there's only 2 top 5 players? are you high?
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:39 PM   #132
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Good argument.

By the way, when you call someone an idiot, you should probably use the right grammar.


Gotta love the n00bs, chastising long-time posters for using the lexicon...
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:41 PM   #133
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You think there's only 2 top 5 players? are you high?
I think the only other top players are left tackles and WRs. Maybe a CB or two slips in there and Orakpo.

None of these positions are places where we would get the difference-making you would want out of a top 10 pick.

I will vomit if the Chiefs use a top 5 pick on a left tackle.
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If we ****ing pick someone because he's BPA, even though we don't have an immediate need for him, I'll be pissed too. Remember when we drafted Larry Johnson because he was BPA? Did you ever stop to think what this team could have been like if we instead went for Nick Barnett? LJ sat the bench for several years on a team that might have been one player away from a Super Bowl run.

Drafting a LT would essentially be legitimizing spending a #17 pick on a guard, and moving a productive left tackle out of position. Drafting a QB outside of Stafford is settling for a pick. Drafting a WR like Crabtree on a team that has 2 receivers playing very good football is something Matt Millen would do.

The only players I can justify sticking around for are Stafford and Orakpo, unless someone makes a huge leap, which is doubtful. Stafford will be gone and we're making a huge assumption that Orakpo will grade as a top 3 calibre DE--I still have doubts as to whether he is.

Otherwise, you're reaching. I would rather reach for a player we need, then stick around for someone we don't need or for someone that's going to push a productive player to the bench. And I would rather trade down and draft the guy we want at the right spot and get extra picks on the side than reach.
It's November, and you think it's doubtful that someone makes a big leap?

Holy shit.

Matt Ryan wasn't even considered a 1st round pick until this time last year, much less 3rd overall.

A LOT is going to change between now and April.
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Gotta love the n00bs, chastising long-time posters for using the lexicon...
I like his argument of there's only 2 players in the top 5 the Chiefs can use and 1 of them he isn't even sure about.

You'd think our team was great.
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