NFL Draft Bradford Please - Page 9

**jAZ** · 01-08-2009, 10:07 PM

I don't think he's coming out, but he's my choice in the QB dice-roll.

DJ's left nut · 01-09-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Does Bradford have a strong feel for the game where he can walk up to the LOS and know where the ball needs to go? No, he's always looking over to the side line. Is the NFL going to put him in the spread 80% of his plays? Maybe if they have Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Does he have great mechanics?

Brandford has great accuracy. And that is huge. But I don't think that alone is enough to build an NFL career.

Wait, so is there a single spread QB in the game with any football savvy? His system requires he look over to the sideline, that hardly means he doesn't have a feel for the game. And looking over to the sideline is no different than listening to the headseat in the pros. When the play is in motion, he makes quick, accurate decisions. I saw a ton of football savvy in the kid over the course of the season. You're also equating inexperience with inability and that's wholly unfair. Nothing negative has ever been said about the guy when it comes to his aptitude.

And his mechanics are actually pretty sound save the throwing motion. Yet another way he reminds me of Rivers.

okcchief · 01-09-2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by cdcox
Does Bradford have a strong feel for the game where he can walk up to the LOS and know where the ball needs to go? No, he's always looking over to the side line. Is the NFL going to put him in the spread 80% of his plays? Maybe if they have Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Does he have great mechanics?

Brandford has great accuracy. And that is huge. But I don't think that alone is enough to build an NFL career.

He looks over to the sideline because the plays are called from the sideline. They run a no huddle. How many QB's do you see calling their own plays from a no huddle in college? It doesn't mean he can't do it he is just running the system the way the coaching staff wants him too. The kid is smart and manages the offense well. I don't think his football savy is a reason to doubt him at all.

He can also learn to play under center but will need an Oline that can protect him. Most NFL QBs need that though.

They jury is out on all three of these guys no matter how hard your dick is for one of them and how much you doubt another.

ChiefsCountry · 01-09-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Maybe so but Trent was the best QB this franchise ever had.

There is this guy named Len Dawson. Might have heard of him.

kcfanXIII · 01-09-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

They jury is out on all three of these guys no matter how hard your dick is for one of them and how much you doubt another.

this is the conclusion i've come to. i'm pretty content to see how the dice roll, and just hope for the best with who ever the chiefs choose to be QBOTF. i'm glad i don't have to make the choice.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Maybe so but Trent was the best QB this franchise ever had.

NEVER go FULL reerun

googlegoogle · 01-09-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

One thing I noticed about Bradford tonight was he just lacked zip on the ball all of his passes were lobbish even the short ones.

Some of his passes he gets away with in college will get picked in the NFL.

You're not going to see high velocity spirals between defenders like Manning or Cutler can do.

I am no expert though. I want to see how he does in the combines and the postseason games.

Chad Pennington?

dj56dt58 · 01-09-2009, 06:07 AM

who cares..we're getting Stafford..Sanchez is the worst case scenario

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-09-2009, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Try educating yourself about how overrated Stafford is and how (until late last season) he was considered a disappointment... considering how highly recruited he was coming out of high school.

Stafford completed barely over 55% of his passes last season and was horrible his freshman year (52% completion %, 7 TDs compared to 13 INTs).

In his two biggest games of the season this year... against Alabama and Florida (the two most NFL-caliber defenses he faced this year) Stafford was average at best (completing just over 57% of his passes) against Alabama and was horrible (under 55% completion %, 0 TD and 3 INTs) against Florida.

Both of those games were also losses.

Stafford is a fraud.

Kill yourself, reerun. 61.4% as a Jr, you ****ing dickwad.

kstater · 01-09-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Have you seen Stafford play? He was a mediocre QB for most of his career (until this year) and runs the most un-NFL like offense of the big 3 (Sanchez, Bradford and Stafford).

kepp · 01-09-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I thought his last INT was a perfectly thrown pass. That was on the WR. I heard the one at halftime, I didn't see but I heard it was batted 4-5 times.

I didn't see either of the INTs as his fault...definitely not the second one. That one was squarely on the receiver.

Chiefnj2 · 01-09-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Does Bradford have a strong feel for the game where he can walk up to the LOS and know where the ball needs to go? No, he's always looking over to the side line. Is the NFL going to put him in the spread 80% of his plays? Maybe if they have Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

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Nobody knows. You don't know if he has a strong feel for the game, or if he can call plays himself because the system does not allow him to do it. Is it because he can't handle it, or because the coaches have huge egos and want to maintain control? A combination of both? We don't know.

At the end of the day he has more to learn right now than Sanchez or Stafford. Realistically, even with the ability to call audibles in college, Sanchez isn't likely going to be given the power to do it his first year in the NFL. No coach is going to give a rookie with one year of starting experience the responsibility of calling plays. They are in over their heads as it is.

It's a slow process. That's why when you look back at Ryan, Flacco and Thigpen this past year you see that when asked to throw a lot the guys make mistakes and their stats go down.

**jAZ** · 01-09-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I didn't expect Bradford to throw the ball so well. I also didn't expect him to be on such a short leash. He's the least NFL ready of the three but has a pretty high ceiling.

I can't tell about the NFL ready, but part of of my opinion is based on what I've heard about how high his ceiling is. Something about Stafford makes me think Blackledge.

**Baby Lee** · 01-09-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Does Bradford have a strong feel for the game where he can walk up to the LOS and know where the ball needs to go? No, he's always looking over to the side line.

That has to be one of the dumbest critiques I've seen in some time. The coach has installed a system where the offense lines up, then a whole cadre of assistants relay signals from the sidelines regarding adjustments the staff wants based on how the D lines up against them. It's Bradford's JOB under this system to take in all those signals and update the offense. It's what he's SUPPOSED to do. And you spin it like he's some lost child looking to the sideline for his binky.

hawkchief · 01-09-2009, 09:06 AM

It's absolutely incredible how many tards get on here and profess they know so much about picking the right guy. The friggin scouts that get paid big bucks to do it miss more than they hit, but somehow a huge number of CP pricks seem to know everything about every QB. Most haven't put a jock on in their lives, but feel qualified to engage everyone in a pissing-contest-to-the-death, regarding their supposed superior knowledge of the intricacies of playing QB in the NFL.

It's one thing to have a gut feel or opinion on the topic, but for so many tools on here that think they are the de-facto experts on a topic like this, all I have to say to you is... rofl and quit showing off your insecurity and foolishness.

Chief Henry · 01-09-2009, 09:07 AM

Tebow is my type of player. Fire in his belly with alot of desire. It doesn't appear that he'd have many off the field problems either.

Detroit should pick him. That town is desperate for something to get excited about.

I would not mind seeing Tebow under center in KC. He's gritty and isn't made of glass like Brody Croyle.

I still wanted OU to win...but I was happy for Tebow. I'm also glad he doesn't have that
"THUG" mentality and style.

I still don't know if we need to pick a QB with our 1st pick. If Tebow is available I'd love to get him, but only if its him. I would like to see Thigpen receive another shot.

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01-09-2009, 12:44 AM	#122
okcchief MVP Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $9849890	Originally Posted by cdcox Does Bradford have a strong feel for the game where he can walk up to the LOS and know where the ball needs to go? No, he's always looking over to the side line. Is the NFL going to put him in the spread 80% of his plays? Maybe if they have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Does he have great mechanics? Brandford has great accuracy. And that is huge. But I don't think that alone is enough to build an NFL career. He looks over to the sideline because the plays are called from the sideline. They run a no huddle. How many QB's do you see calling their own plays from a no huddle in college? It doesn't mean he can't do it he is just running the system the way the coaching staff wants him too. The kid is smart and manages the offense well. I don't think his football savy is a reason to doubt him at all. He can also learn to play under center but will need an Oline that can protect him. Most NFL QBs need that though. They jury is out on all three of these guys no matter how hard your dick is for one of them and how much you doubt another. Last edited by okcchief; 01-09-2009 at 12:50 AM..
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01-09-2009, 09:06 AM	#134
hawkchief Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $-631400	It's absolutely incredible how many tards get on here and profess they know so much about picking the right guy. The friggin scouts that get paid big bucks to do it miss more than they hit, but somehow a huge number of CP pricks seem to know everything about every QB. Most haven't put a jock on in their lives, but feel qualified to engage everyone in a pissing-contest-to-the-death, regarding their supposed superior knowledge of the intricacies of playing QB in the NFL. It's one thing to have a gut feel or opinion on the topic, but for so many tools on here that think they are the de-facto experts on a topic like this, all I have to say to you is... rofl and quit showing off your insecurity and foolishness.
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01-09-2009, 09:07 AM	#135
Chief Henry MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IOWA Casino cash: $10005088	Tebow is my type of player. Fire in his belly with alot of desire. It doesn't appear that he'd have many off the field problems either. Detroit should pick him. That town is desperate for something to get excited about. I would not mind seeing Tebow under center in KC. He's gritty and isn't made of glass like Brody Croyle. I still wanted OU to win...but I was happy for Tebow. I'm also glad he doesn't have that "THUG" mentality and style. I still don't know if we need to pick a QB with our 1st pick. If Tebow is available I'd love to get him, but only if its him. I would like to see Thigpen receive another shot. __________________ Patrick Mahomes...The only QB to ever play in the NFL with at least 5,000 passing yards in a single season and 5,000 passing yards in a single college season.
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