Chiefs A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. - Page 9

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Okay, first off; Spit Bubble salutes you, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan! He appreciates your advocacy and continued support!

Second,
Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, and Leggitt; that is our defense. That is it,and there ain't no more.

Much roster to fill. Much.

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:01 AM

Tamba Hali is the guy that immediately jumps out to me as having no 3-4 position more so than anyone else...the other guys you may sort of get by for a year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-02-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

Which is why I was against this move.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tamba Hali is the guy that immediately jumps out to me as having no 3-4 position more so than anyone else...the other guys you may sort of get by for a year.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

You need rotational guys regardless of scheme and I do think Hali can do spot duty at OLB. SPOT duty.

ncCHIEFfan · 03-02-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tamba Hali is the guy that immediately jumps out to me as having no 3-4 position more so than anyone else...the other guys you may sort of get by for a year.

THIS!

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which is why I was against this move.

I'm not keen on changing schemes when we're this young. Makes the last 3 years a COMPLETE waste instead of a partial one.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

You need rotational guys regardless of scheme and I do think Hali can do spot duty at OLB. SPOT duty.

I'd agree if he did anything well, ran well, played the run well something..

Hell I think Brian Johnston has a better shot of being a 3-4 role guy out there than Hali does.

Now I think Flowers will be fine, and I don't particularly like the safeties and most of the front 7 needed to be replaced anyway.

MOhillbilly · 03-02-2009, 11:05 AM

i dont think it matters about curry. KC will see who has a hardon for QB and trade down in the 1st and p/u some pick(s) in the later rounds.
some team/gm/coach/owner will reach for our pick.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

i dont think it matters about curry. KC will see who has a hardon for QB and trade down in the 1st and p/u some pick(s) in the later rounds.
some team/gm/coach/owner will reach for our pick.

I hope you're right.

My ideal scenario would be trading down, picking up a 2nd round pick or more, and still getting a good LB or DL.

blueballs · 03-02-2009, 11:06 AM

Not even the Star would go with
a dash of Curry

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's not rocket science, is it?

Nope.

But you'd never know that from reading this forum sometimes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Herm's going to ride back into town on his white horse, assume the currently unfilled DC position, and fix this D once and for all.

Right, Sensible? Let Herm see this thing through?

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

hali is going to be an excellent rush backer, teams are going to be overwhellemed by his power, speed, instincts, and moves.

I know I'm dazzled as all **** about him!

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

Uh, Flowers LIVES to bring pressure. Just because ****her never called a Corner Blitz, does NOT mean Flowers can't bring one. He can.

Chiefnj2 · 03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

i dont think it matters about curry. KC will see who has a hardon for QB and trade down in the 1st and p/u some pick(s) in the later rounds.
some team/gm/coach/owner will reach for our pick.

If Stafford is available I think it is possible. I don't know many GM"s that will give up what it takes to move to the top 3 for a one year starter. This risk is extremely high to start with, let alone giving up multiple first day picks.

MOhillbilly · 03-02-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I hope you're right.

My ideal scenario would be trading down, picking up a 2nd round pick or more, and still getting a good LB or DL.

its seems likely to happen with the cassel trade. we dont have a strong 'value' as far as personel goes at 3 and some fool and his pick will be quickly parted.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

I'm not saying you're not correct, but this post just depresses the hell out of me.

03-02-2009, 08:22 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4. Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well. Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT. Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT. Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in. I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right. DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays. Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page. The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine. Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO. I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up. I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10. He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick. Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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