Chiefs ESPN gave us a B draft grade. Does that make the pessimist happier? - Page 9

**HemiEd** · 04-26-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I guarantee 100% Albert and Flowers are and will be better than anyone that the Chiefs drafted this year.

You might be right, but you have to listen to what Pioli has said, if nothing else.

Not looking for pro bowlers, he is looking for team members that will come together.

Obviously, they feel confident, these guys they picked today, will meld in with the core that they chose to keep, from the previous regime.

Come on guys, he already explained it, we just have to listen.

I feel confident, this team may finally start giving some pressure on defense, and it has been a while since we could say that.

Noss · 04-26-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, the season after the draft doesn't show the true value of that draft, unless you're the Chiefs and you completely undermine the future value of that draft by changing to an entirely different scheme that so many of the players from that draft don't fit.

If a draft doesn't improve your teams record it wasn't a good draft. You are as good as your record.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You might be right, but you have to listen to what Pioli has said, if nothing else.

Not looking for pro bowlers, he is looking for team members that will come together.

Obviously, they feel confident, these guys they picked today, will meld in with the core that they chose to keep, from the previous regime.

Come on guys, he already explained it, we just have to listen.

I feel confident, this team may finally start giving some pressure on defense, and it has been a while since we could say that.

I have no problem with anything you've written here.

But, come on. If Pioli and co. aren't looking for Pro Bowlers, they should really be fired immediately.

This reminds me of when the Royals said they'd win a lot of games with 11 or 25 or 53 Ross Gloads. ****...

You have to have stars to win.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

If a draft doesn't improve your teams record it wasn't a good draft. You are as good as your record.

Are you kidding?

Using that logic, last year's draft was garbage, because we went 2-14.

That's beyond ridiculous.

milkman · 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

If a draft doesn't improve your teams record it wasn't a good draft. You are as good as your record.

This is just about as bright as the post that suggested that we should have traded straight up with the Skins for 13.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Would you like to do the honors, Hamas Jefferson, of penning an opus to call these posters out on their bullshit?

I've heard so much about ****ing Curry for the past two months that this shit should not go so quietly into the night.

It might be time for the "Gang of 14" to write an amendment.

The Aaron Curry Corollary to the Pioli Principle:

If a guy looks like he's going to be the pick of the Chiefs, he's the greatest of all time, you can see intensity drip from his eyes over the fractured pixelation of YouTube and he'll be able to do things he's never done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by Lord Linguine.

If a guy is projected as a 15-25 pick and he is taken by your team a half round before his projection, he's an impact player who will be able to do things he hasn't done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by the God of Gnocchi.

If the 58th rated OT is drafted by the Archduke of Agnolotti when top 10 tackles are available, he's a mountain of a man with an ability to be a mauler on the right side and he's solved the problems of our O-line, even if he had his ass whipped every time he faced any legit pro prospect.

If a QB is available via trade, he's ****ing terrible and the Viceroy of Vermicelli should be fired. If he is then traded for, he's a future franchise cornerstone, better than a Pro Bowl QB in the same division who fetched 3x as much in return.

It should also be noted that there is a college QB amendment. No college QB is ever worthy of being drafted before round 6.

tonyetony · 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There are a lot of good examples in this draft of teams receiving great value in return for dropping down.

Just because Cleveland dropped down to their knees doesn't prove a thing.

In many cases, the chart was absolutely valid.

Would that be good value on the chart to pick up a third in this years draft and second in next years draft to slide down to the Skins pick knowing the guy you want will probably be there? Hell how about just a third this year and still getting Jackson and saving the cap?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Are you kidding?

Using that logic, last year's draft was garbage, because we went 2-14.

That's beyond ridiculous.

2003 draft, GOAT!! 6 win improvement!!

T-post Tom · 04-26-2009, 08:04 PM

Grading a draft the day it ends?

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2009, 08:04 PM

Guess the 1989 Cowboys Draft was a complete failure for them.

milkman · 04-26-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Guess the 1989 Cowboys Draft was a complete failure for them.

Isn't it obvious?

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Aaron Curry Corollary to the Pioli Principle:

If a guy looks like he's going to be the pick of the Chiefs, he's the greatest of all time, you can see intensity drip from his eyes over the fractured pixelation of YouTube and he'll be able to do things he's never done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by Lord Linguine.

If a guy is projected as a 15-25 pick and he is taken by your team a half round before his projection, he's an impact player who will be able to do things he hasn't done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by the God of Gnocchi.

If the 58th rated OT is drafted by the Archduke of Agnolotti when top 10 tackles are available, he's a mountain of a man with an ability to be a mauler on the right side and he's solved the problems of our O-line, even if he had his ass whipped every time he faced any legit pro prospect.

If a QB is available via trade, he's ****ing terrible and the Viceroy of Vermicelli should be fired. If he is then traded for, he's a future franchise cornerstone, better than a Pro Bowl QB in the same division who fetched 3x as much in return.

It should also be noted that there is a college QB amendment. No college QB is ever worthy of being drafted before round 6.

This needs to be the foundation of its own thread, especially in light of the Mecca/Hamas/Dane thread.

Well done.

Saccopoo · 04-26-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Where are all the Curry advocates?

How mad are they at their boy for passing on the OBVIOUS top prospect in the draft?

Pretty mad, actually. I was livid last night, especially after the Magee selection. Jackson made some sense, but was a relatively large reach. If he's not the veritable second coming of Richard Seymour, and we pissed away another first round/high draft pick on a DT/DE type guy that isn't a complete standout, I will be quite unhappy, especially if Curry or Crabtree or Monroe ends up in the Pro Bowl in the next couple of years.

I understand that we needed a dedicated 3-4 defensive end, and Jackson was about the only guy that filled that bill in this draft, and he was a pretty good player for a good college team in a competitive division, so I'm semi-okay with it. Yeah, I would have preferred Curry, but I can live with Jackson. Magee - not so much.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Isn't it obvious?

Aikman, Moose Johnston, Mark Stephnoski and Tony Tolbert must have had shitty careers after that 1-15 season after they were drafted.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Pretty mad, actually. I was livid last night, especially after the Magee selection. Jackson made some sense, but was a relatively large reach. If he's not the veritable second coming of Richard Seymour, and we pissed away another first round/high draft pick on a DT/DE type guy that isn't a complete standout, I will be quite unhappy, especially if Curry or Crabtree or Monroe ends up in the Pro Bowl in the next couple of years.

I understand that we needed a dedicated 3-4 defensive end, and Jackson was about the only guy that filled that bill in this draft, and he was a pretty good player for a good college team in a competitive division, so I'm semi-okay with it. Yeah, I would have preferred Curry, but I can live with Jackson. Magee - not so much.

I give you credit for owning up.

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