NFL Draft Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays - Page 9

**RealSNR** · 09-14-2009, 06:08 PM

No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.

I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that?

Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?

Chiefnj2 · 09-15-2009, 04:13 PM

The only position that is justified these days with the use of a top 5 pick is QB.

I believe Polamalu received an 11 mil signing bonus his last contract. If KC picks a saftey with a top 5 pick, that player will receive a signing bonus of at least 30 million. Almost 3x as much as the best safety in the NFL.

htismaqe · 09-15-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The only position that is justified these days with the use of a top 5 pick is QB.

I believe Polamalu received an 11 mil signing bonus his last contract. If KC picks a saftey with a top 5 pick, that player will receive a signing bonus of at least 30 million. Almost 3x as much as the best safety in the NFL.

Probably not. One of the key sticking points in the new CBA negotiations is rookie salaries.

eazyb81 · 09-19-2009, 04:42 PM

I missed this thread since I haven't been on here in awhile. Both players are awesome and I would love to have either roaming in our secondary, but if I had to choose I would have to take Eric Berry. While not as big and probably not as fast as Mays, he's the bigger playmaker between the two - think Ed Reed in the secondary. Dude looked dominant in today's UF - UT game.

Again, I am not going to argue vehemently in his favor over Mays because they are both studs, but in my eyes Berry is the better college player and will be the better pro player.

**RealSNR** · 09-19-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I missed this thread since I haven't been on here in awhile. Both players are awesome and I would love to have either roaming in our secondary, but if I had to choose I would have to take Eric Berry. While not as big and probably not as fast as Mays, he's the bigger playmaker between the two - think Ed Reed in the secondary. Dude looked dominant in today's UF - UT game.

Again, I am not going to argue vehemently in his favor over Mays because they are both studs, but in my eyes Berry is the better college player and will be the better pro player.

Yeah. At this point upside appears to be the biggest difference. And that's a whole 'nother debate as to who has more.

DrRyan · 09-19-2009, 07:07 PM

Berry was a stud in a losing effort today for the Vols. His pick of Tebow was one hell of a play. Also his play at or near the line of scrimmage was impressive. Loved seeing him drop his shoulder and go right at Tebow on the run. Mays is a very good player but at this point I like Berry's coverage and ball skills over Mays.
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Sanka · 09-21-2009, 12:02 AM

After watching the highlights of Tebow plow right through Berry, Im on the Mays bandwagon.

**doomy3** · 09-21-2009, 12:07 AM

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After watching the highlights of Tebow plow right through Berry, Im on the Mays bandwagon.

Berry had a hell of a game against Florida. 11 tackles, an INT and 2 passes broken up. That's pretty much everything you could want in a safety.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 12:41 AM

This is such a tough call and will be up to draft day. But as much as we might want one of them, the chances of Haley/Pioli taking them is very low. We can only hope sometimes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-21-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

This is such a tough call and will be up to draft day. But as much as we might want one of them, the chances of Haley/Pioli taking them is very low. We can only hope sometimes.

We'll be up to our ass in (new)inferior O-linemen.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 01:19 AM

Im all for whatever help us win. Safeties, Guards, Nose tackles. I dont care, whatever brings us closer to being on top again for the first time in 40 years.

philfree · 09-21-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Im all for whatever help us win. Safeties, Guards, Nose tackles. I dont care, whatever brings us closer to being on top again for the first time in 40 years.

Right On!

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TrickyNicky · 09-21-2009, 02:33 AM

Next year is going to be hell if its uncapped. Most of the decent free agents are going to be RFA because they aren't 6 years vets. Which will make hitting on our draft picks even more important. I want a sure thing, and I think Mays is as sure-fire as it gets.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 09-21-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Berry had a hell of a game against Florida. 11 tackles, an INT and 2 passes broken up. That's pretty much everything you could want in a safety.

He said it all when he said "watched the highlights" if you actually watched that game, there's no way you don't come away from it very impressed by what Berry did in a BIG game for them.

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

Next year is going to be hell if its uncapped. Most of the decent free agents are going to be RFA because they aren't 6 years vets. Which will make hitting on our draft picks even more important. I want a sure thing, and I think Mays is as sure-fire as it gets.

I agree with you that he is probably the safer pick of the two, but Berry is a bigtime playmaker.....I'd be estatic if we can get either one.

Chiefnj2 · 09-21-2009, 11:23 AM

He kind of stood and watched Demps run in the TD.

Sure-Oz · 09-21-2009, 11:30 AM

We would be great to have either one, berry impressed me in that game

09-14-2009, 06:08 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1524792	Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick. I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that? Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	The only position that is justified these days with the use of a top 5 pick is QB. I believe Polamalu received an 11 mil signing bonus his last contract. If KC picks a saftey with a top 5 pick, that player will receive a signing bonus of at least 30 million. Almost 3x as much as the best safety in the NFL. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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09-19-2009, 04:42 PM	#123
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	I missed this thread since I haven't been on here in awhile. Both players are awesome and I would love to have either roaming in our secondary, but if I had to choose I would have to take Eric Berry. While not as big and probably not as fast as Mays, he's the bigger playmaker between the two - think Ed Reed in the secondary. Dude looked dominant in today's UF - UT game. Again, I am not going to argue vehemently in his favor over Mays because they are both studs, but in my eyes Berry is the better college player and will be the better pro player.
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09-19-2009, 07:07 PM	#125
DrRyan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AZ Casino cash: $4501721	Berry was a stud in a losing effort today for the Vols. His pick of Tebow was one hell of a play. Also his play at or near the line of scrimmage was impressive. Loved seeing him drop his shoulder and go right at Tebow on the run. Mays is a very good player but at this point I like Berry's coverage and ball skills over Mays. Posted via Mobile Device
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09-21-2009, 12:02 AM	#126
Sanka Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Casino cash: $-1543023	After watching the highlights of Tebow plow right through Berry, Im on the Mays bandwagon.
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09-21-2009, 01:19 AM	#130
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3322900	Im all for whatever help us win. Safeties, Guards, Nose tackles. I dont care, whatever brings us closer to being on top again for the first time in 40 years.
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TrickyNicky My Black Friend, Alan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manhattan Casino cash: $10007047	Next year is going to be hell if its uncapped. Most of the decent free agents are going to be RFA because they aren't 6 years vets. Which will make hitting on our draft picks even more important. I want a sure thing, and I think Mays is as sure-fire as it gets.
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09-21-2009, 11:30 AM	#135
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