Arguments for a Left Tackle in the 2010 Draft.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So you're saying the Chiefs are going to take Dan Williams?

No, the Chiefs are not talking any DLine #5 overall. Thats me further saying Okung wont be the pick.

[RustShack]

Whats even more funny though, the three highest picks Pioli has ever had.. #2 overall went to a Safety when they were with the Browns, #6 went to a DE(DT at the time), and #10 went to a LB. Oh and how can I forget, last years #3 went to a DE. I wonder if its a coincidence? I wonder if he will continue to follow his patterns of using the majority of the high round picks on defense or if he will completely change his ways because Sacapoo is an idiot and doesn't know what hes talking about?

Hmmm now thats a mystery.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Whats even more funny though, the three highest picks Pioli has ever had.. #2 overall went to a Safety when they were with the Browns, #6 went to a DE(DT at the time), and #10 went to a LB. Oh and how can I forget, last years #3 went to a DE. I wonder if its a coincidence? I wonder if he will continue to follow his patterns of using the majority of the high round picks on defense or if he will completely change his ways because Sacapoo is an idiot and doesn't know what hes talking about?

Hmmm now thats a mystery.

The only mystery around here is how you manage to remember to breath.

I can't remember saying anything about what I though Pioli was going to do, so again, for about the 2,487th time, you interject some irrelevant idiocy into the conversation.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

The only mystery around here is how you manage to remember to breath.

[Mecca]

This is my opinion..

I think this team is going to take McClain first, it's not what I'd do but it's what I think they'll do.

I think they'll follow that by trying to get guys like Charles Brown and Terrence Cody in the 2nd since those guys are basic carbon fits for what this coach and GM like.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is my opinion..

I think this team is going to take McClain first, it's not what I'd do but it's what I think they'll do.

I think they'll follow that by trying to get guys like Charles Brown and Terrence Cody in the 2nd since those guys are basic carbon fits for what this coach and GM like.

I'm with you 100%. Though they might take a flyer on a receiver if either one of those two guys aren't there in the second with the later pick.

[Mecca]

I have extreme question about drafting Charles Brown but he's basically exactly what Haley seems to want Albert to be so it makes sense.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I have extreme question about drafting Charles Brown but he's basically exactly what Haley seems to want Albert to be so it makes sense.

I wouldn't be happy with it as I don't think Brown is a viable NFL LT, or at least what he showed during the USC games I watched. But I think he'd fit what Haley envisions as an appropriate LT in his zone block scheme.

The problem with trying to predict what they do in this draft from a player perspective is that they have so many holes, and Haley has a couple of positions that he just seems to loathe - mainly the receivers and safeties. However, I think that Pioli has major input on the type of players that get drafted, probably more than Haley does and it will be interesting to see who they put the value on in this next draft. Even if Berry is available, it's not a given that he'll be the pick.

I wouldn't be too surprised if they traded down and picked Jared Odrick in the late teens/early 20's. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked him at #5.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I wouldn't be happy with it as I don't think Brown is a viable NFL LT, or at least what he showed during the USC games I watched. But I think he'd fit what Haley envisions as an appropriate LT in his zone block scheme.

The problem with trying to predict what they do in this draft from a player perspective is that they have so many holes, and Haley has a couple of positions that he just seems to loathe - mainly the receivers and safeties. However, I think that Pioli has major input on the type of players that get drafted, probably more than Haley does and it will be interesting to see who they put the value on in this next draft. Even if Berry is available, it's not a given that he'll be the pick.

I wouldn't be too surprised if they traded down and picked Jared Odrick in the late teens/early 20's. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked him at #5.

He needs to gain about 15lbs, I don't think he'd have much problem doing it he has a very large fame to work with. He is athletic, he is from a pro style system and he's already use to functioning in a zone blocking scheme since that's what SC does.

I'm not sure he's ready to play from day 1 at LT though...Charles Brown to me is like D'Brickashaw Ferguson with less experience. He's light yet athletic and I don't think he will ever be a mammoth mauling run blocker he's a pulling athletic type.

Which is why Brown's only position at the next level is LT.

[Mecca]

I'm not big on using high picks on non elite prospects but frankly I don't think this regime is remotely married to Branden Albert.

Part of the reason I've never thought we'd take Okung is the jizz fest Pioli will have over McClain that and if you gave Haley a pick of OT's he'd probably take Brown.

[Mecca]

Look if you want something in the way of a trade down, hope that St Louis takes Suh. Of course this entire forum would flip because we'd be trading down with Berry on the board but I think the Chiefs have very little interest in drafting him.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Look if you want something in the way of a trade down, hope that St Louis takes Suh. Of course this entire forum would flip because we'd be trading down with Berry on the board but I think the Chiefs have very little interest in drafting him.

I don't see them picking Berry either (though he's the guy I'd like if he was still available at the #5). And I think that St. Louis takes Suh. I just don't see them falling in love with either Bradford or Clausen and Suh is the standout in this draft class even though they've spent two of the last three years on defensive line guys (Long and Carriker).

They might even hold out hope that they suck enough next season to potentially draft Gabbert in 2011.

[Mecca]

Also I've seen every single game Charles Brown has ever played, I could probably discuss what he can and can't do and what he is for 30 minutes.

[Saccopoo]

And if the Vick to St. Louis thing has any sliver of truth to it, they'd definitely take Suh.

[Mecca]

Here's what I'll say since I think Brown going to our team actually has a good chance of happening.

He was recruited as a TE/OL/DL since he did all 3 in high school, he came in as a TE redshirted and switched to OT halfway through that year so he never lined up as a TE in college.

His feet are about as good as you could ask for, the agility is top notch for an offensive lineman. He sets up extremely quickly, he almost always gets to the 2nd level in run blocking, he does a really good job on tosses and sweeps. He also loves to throw cut blocks, probably a bit more than he should, but that's zone blocking. His initial punch to defenders is very strong and he does a good job of keeping guys off balance.

Now the weaknesses he has are he can be overpowered and pushed into the backfield at 6'6 and only 285, he needs to add about 20lbs for the next level. He doesn't offer any versatility because he is a pure finesse player so he is a LT or nothing.

Just in general is a guy who is a finesse playing zone blocking LT. Good pass protector probably will never be a better than above average run blocker.