Chiefs Don't blame the refs - Page 9

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 02:02 PM

Our defense was absolute horrendous shit.

And we don't have a championship quarterback. We have a ****ing choke artist.

johnny961 · 10-17-2010, 02:42 PM

This one is squarely on the "D". The last 4 Texan drives Houston made it look easy. We stop any one of these 4 drives and this board is a whole different tone. Yeah the PI call was bullshit but no way a good defense lets the texans score like that on those drives. Period.

Mecca · 10-17-2010, 02:43 PM

If you want some blame, bad 3rd and 2 call, letting Andre Johnson spend most of the game matched up with Brandon Carr, those are some pretty serious errors.

milkman · 10-17-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

BUt it's not about that. It's about time usage. The texans wouldn't have run as many slants on that last drive if we had made them use another time out. It would have been quick outs teh whole way down the field. Instead, we don't run the ball, they get an extra 30 seconds, and they don't have to use one of their timeouts. They're sitting pretty with 2 timeouts and don't mind rushing the ball or throwing a slant. really leaves a lot more options for them instead of limiting them.

I get that, but after ten years of Marty's playing not to lose philosophy, I'm not going to bitch about aggressive playcalling.

johnny961 · 10-17-2010, 02:47 PM

Not enough pressure on Shaub, either.

**Bwana** · 10-17-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I was expecting a no call, and he caught the ball so I guess the real debate should be if Johnson should have gotten offensive PI.

He caught it because he pushed Flowers past the play with the bump. Watch it again. For Flowers to get the flag on that, was horseshit.

Saccopoo · 10-17-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

How many fourth downs did we attempt because we couldn't convert 3rd and short running the ball in this game?

3?

We actually converted most of our 3rd and shorts on passing plays.

Regardless of how many yards this team racks up on the ground, it's not a line built for drive blocking. Charles, Jones and McCluster had a lot of yards due to their own improvising, not due to superior blocking up front.

Weis calls that 3 & 2 pass play because he knows that they are stacked against the run and it's going to be a tougher challenge to pick up two yards with nine in the box versus a out to a tight end that's been pretty solid in terms of hanging onto the ball so far this season. Cassel made a bad read and subsequent throw. The call was just fine.

bobbything · 10-17-2010, 02:50 PM

The catch was made regardless of the PI call.

KCrockaholic · 10-17-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

The catch was made regardless of the PI call.

Did you even think about maybe WHY the pass was caught?

bobbything · 10-17-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Did you even think about maybe WHY the pass was caught?

That was a no call at worst. Are people arguing that it was offensive PI?

Mecca · 10-17-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Did you even think about maybe WHY the pass was caught?

Then we can get into a debate about how star WR's have been getting away with that shit forever, Irvin made the HOF with that move.

Jerm · 10-17-2010, 02:58 PM

Refs just made the correct call in the Dal/Minny game on a similar play...brought back a Dallas TD too.

UGH.

**Lzen** · 10-17-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

This. It's ****ing stupid to put any blame on him.

No, it's not stupid. I said it in the game thread and I'll say it again here.

Cassel had a good game. Except for a few key plays at the end. His throw to Moeaki at the end was shitty. He made two horrible throws to open receivers on the last drive. He doesn't get a pass just because he had a decent game for 57 mins or so against the worst pass defense in the NFL.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Did Johnson push off? Yes. He gave Flowers an elbow.

That goes on all the time and is never called. It's only called from what I've seen when the WR extends his arm.

What would I have liked to see? A no call there. So Johnson still made the catch. Just a tough break.

I don't fault this loss on that one play or call.

I fault the loss on the defense's inability to stop any phase of their offense.

It essentially was a no call, as Houston declined the penalty, and took the result of the play, which was a catch.

Which makes all this whining about the refs even more embarrassing.

Even more embarrassing than the lack of a pass rush today, or the inability of the offense to grind out the clock and win the game.

EyePod · 10-17-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you want some blame, bad 3rd and 2 call, letting Andre Johnson spend most of the game matched up with Brandon Carr, those are some pretty serious errors.

I agree. Flowers had a great game minus the 1 play he gave up yardage to Andre on.

Frazod · 10-17-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Refs just made the correct call in the Dal/Minny game on a similar play...brought back a Dallas TD too.

UGH.

Apparently they keep up on their payments.

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10-17-2010, 02:42 PM	#121
johnny961 Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: in a cave Casino cash: $9836152	This one is squarely on the "D". The last 4 Texan drives Houston made it look easy. We stop any one of these 4 drives and this board is a whole different tone. Yeah the PI call was bullshit but no way a good defense lets the texans score like that on those drives. Period.
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