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Old 01-02-2012, 07:25 PM  
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DraftPlanet/CasinoPlanet: A Proposal
Every year, we have the debate about when (and if) Draft Planet and Casino Planet should be hidden from the top and when (and if) they should be brought back. This has all been discussed ad nauseum around here, so I won't reiterate everything, but the basic idea is that there's not a LOT of talk in the regular season about the draft (though there is some), and there's not a LOT of talk in the offseason about fantasy sports (though there is some). So, it would be nice to have them both available year-round, but doing so adds another subforum to an already large list at the top of the Lounge. (Yes, you can hide them, but 90% of people don't, and they'd still be there for guests and the like.)

After a brief chat about it in the mod forum, we'd like to propose that the two forums be combined into one, but left up year-round. We'll add prefixes to the forum so that the different topics can be distinguished from each other and filtered if desired. It won't be the cleanest combination ever, but I think it'll be manageable given that people are already used to the hodgepodge of topics they sort through in the Lounge anyway and that the activity in those forums is comparatively low anyway.

Anyway, this thread is mainly to see if there are any strong objections to doing so. I might add a poll to this thread later if necessary, but the current thinking is that we'll do it unless a bunch of people hate it.

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Old 01-03-2012, 06:06 PM   #121
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I want to apologize for my tone throughout the thread.

I don't mean to come off as a dick. As a rule, I try to save that for the DC forum.

I just feel like submerging my favorite forum on ChiefsPlanet robs the Planet of the full football experience.

I've been rebuffed numerous times and largely ignored on this issue for years now. It's just built up the frustration and boom, here you have it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:08 PM   #122
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I know you think I hate you and DraftPlanet both, but we're really trying to find a way to make this work without adding unnecessary clutter. That's why we posted the thread.
See what I mean, Direckshun. You can feel the condescension trying to burst forth from DaFace's fingers.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #123
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Looks like DraftPlanet is back.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #124
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FWIW, I went ahead and put Draft Planet at the top while I tinker with a few things.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #125
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I just wanted to show you something from PatriotsPlanet

I took a screen grab from their main football forum and their version of the lounge.

First of all, their header is about an inch larger than CP's. And they have 5 stickies at all times, meaning their members have to scroll for...1 SECOND (the horror) to get to see what they want. So wtf is the big deal with adding 1 more subforum up top?
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #126
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I just wanted to show you something from PatriotsPlanet

I took a screen grab from their main football forum and their version of the lounge.

First of all, their header is about an inch larger than CP's. And they have 5 stickies at all times, meaning their members have to scroll for...1 SECOND (the horror) to get to see what they want. So wtf is the big deal with adding 1 more subforum up top?
Which forum looks more professional: Pats Planet or Chiefs Planet?
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #127
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Which forum looks more professional: Pats Planet or Chiefs Planet?
I like CP more.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #128
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Which forum looks more professional: Pats Planet or Chiefs Planet?
Definitely ChiefsPlanet, but only by a hair (it's not that different really)

However, adding an extra inch of space isn't going to ruin anyone's day like you think it is for some reason.

It's not like we have sticky threads all the time. You can get to the new posts in the same amount of time it took when there was no Draft Planet subforum up top.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:15 PM   #129
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FWIW, I went ahead and put Draft Planet at the top while I tinker with a few things.
Thats funny. I don't see it.

Oh yeah, because I have had it blocked for 3 years.
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Every time ChiefsPlanet takes a step toward being more like all the other forums on the Internet, whether it's toward more forum segmentation or heavier moderation, it loses a little bit of it's burst, IMO.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:17 PM   #131
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I think you should combine DC/Draft Planet. That way it'll be on the front page where Direckshun can find it.
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Definitely ChiefsPlanet, but only by a hair (it's not that different really)

However, adding an extra inch of space isn't going to ruin anyone's day like you think it is for some reason.

It's not like we have sticky threads all the time. You can get to the new posts in the same amount of time it took when there was no Draft Planet subforum up top.
The point is, web usability has a lot to do with reducing the amount of scrolling people have to do. The stat I've heard over and over again is that users spend 80% of their time looking at content "above the fold" - in other words, above the bottom of the screen when they haven't scrolled down at all. That's undoubtedly way too high for regulars around here, but it's probably close for people visiting for the first time. Too much scrolling is irritating, and when people have to do it too much, it makes a site seem clunky and unprofessional.

I know we're not trying to make money around here, but I've always "admin-ed" around here with the #1 goal of improving usability. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I honestly think less of sites like the Orange Mane and Pats Planet when I visit just because they're not designed as well. Their color schemes, post layouts, and excessive amounts of stickies, subforums, and random youtube videos at the top of the page makes it a slower information consuming experience. My goal is to help people absorb the maximum amount of information in the quickest amount of time, which means reducing any of that crap that isn't necessary. That includes that little 1/4" of space. It's not much, but when you load a page a hundred times a day, it adds up subconsciously.

Regardless, there may be a way to make this work and let people choose on their own, so stay tuned.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:26 PM   #134
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Once again.

I started a mock draft thread. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

It consolidates all the mocks and allows for draft conversation to flow freely.

Then a mod moved it.

To an unrelated forum.

Why would you do that, then continually bring up these bullshit complaints? Shall I dig it up from Casino Planet?
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