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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01:20 AM

Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.

The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

HMc · 12-04-2012, 02:53 AM

lol, yet another thing Dane is an expert in

soon we'll be hearing about how he spoke to Belcher personally shortly before he died. Then he called Clark and they went for a round of golf with Michael Jordan

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

So, Larry's second contract was signed without the Hunt's knowledge as well?

That crafty bastard.

Larry was an asset. He was signed because of it.

When he no longer was an asset? Gone.

This isn't hard to understand.

Anyway, do you really believe Belcher would have been on this roster longer than one season under Herm, Vermeil, etc?

I don't.

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Prove that Scott Pioli doesn't hide information from the Hunt's? As I said, just silly.

Prove he does and then you have a viable argument. Until then, it is no more than girl gossip around a cup of tea while watching General Hospital.

Kent Babb's exact words: "Pioli is a different guy when Hunt is around."

Are we supposed to believe he's completely honest with the Hunts in other matters?

The dude is a complete despot in control of the entire organization until recently. You BET he was hiding shit from the Hunts.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Dane, you obviously are making a straw argument based upon supposition and not in reality regarding anything with the Belcher case - and in the Johnson case as well.

Forgive me if I don't take your claims as expert knowledge, regardless of who you dated.

It's nice that your back to spew your infinite amount of bullshit, Russ. It was sorely missed around here. You and Denise provide unparalled insight.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Larry was an asset. He was signed because of it.

When he no longer was an asset? Gone.

This isn't hard to understand.

Anyway, do you really believe Belcher would have been on this roster longer than one season under Herm, Vermeil, etc?

I don't.

I don't know. I just know your original statement was blatantly false and now you are trying to detract from it. The Hunt's HAVE and DO employ players like Belcher.

BigRock · 12-04-2012, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The second I read the story, I knew and posted that the murder/suicide had NOTHING to do with head trauma and was a crime of passion.

Two notable symptoms of CTE are increased aggression and poor impulse control. The very things that cause crimes of passion.

Nothing about the crime dismisses brain trauma as a possible factor. Nothing will except an examination of Belcher's brain.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's nice that your back to spew your infinite amount of bullshit, Russ. It was sorely missed around here. You and Denise provide unparalled insight.

Is this your evaluation or the ex-girlfriend who fixed so many mentally ill patients in the state of California?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc

lol, yet another thing Dane is an expert in

soon we'll be hearing about how he spoke to Belcher personally shortly before he died. Then he called Clark and they went for a round of golf with Michael Jordan

You're an expert asshole.

It's great to see you around during a tragedy but I'm certain once this is over, you'll disappear until something else epic happens,

What an asset to tis forum.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Is this your evaluation or the ex-girlfriend who fixed so many mentally ill patients in the state of California?

I don't even know what you're talking about.

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

I don't know. I just know your original statement was blatantly false and now you are trying to detract from it. The Hunt's HAVE and DO employ players like Belcher.

Again: LJ was a special case.

The other players you listed were gone as soon as they proved they were shitty people.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Prove that Scott Pioli doesn't hide information from the Hunt's? As I said, just silly.

Prove he does and then you have a viable argument. Until then, it is no more than girl gossip around a cup of tea while watching General Hospital.

JFC. What have I fabricated? If you're going claim it, please point it out.

KC_Connection · 12-04-2012, 02:59 AM

Odd how so many here are pretending they knew or understood a person they never even met.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't even know what you're talking about.

No surprise there.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I dated a licensed medical social worker for years that dealt with similar trauma.

Next you will be telling us you aren't a doctor but you played one on tv.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-04-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Two notable symptoms of CTE are increased aggression and poor impulse control. The very things that cause crimes of passion.

Nothing about the crime dismisses brain trauma as a possible factor. Nothing will except an examination of Belcher's brain.

NFL Player did this must be head trauma that shit gets old. How about he was just a Controlling Boyfriend and snapped cause his women stayed out late and back talked him.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC. What have I fabricated? If you're going claim it, please point it out.

That the Hunt's have no prior knowledge of their players mentally stability is the first statement that comes to mind to me.

12-04-2012, 12:57 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1206009	Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B**** Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems. By CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead. His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye. Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley. The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources. Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!” Then she heard gunfire. Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said. As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe. “He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp. In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said. “I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.” Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said. But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.” When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said. Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter. Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.” Crennel tried to dissuade him. “I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’ As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head. “I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.” Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head. Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins. “He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.” The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment. Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said. Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began. Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman. Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation. Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered. Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area. Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment. Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page: “On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.… “Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!” Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.” Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.” “As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 12-04-2012 at 01:20 AM..
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