Chiefs 49ers defense looking forward to hitting ASmith - Page 9

Fat Elvis · 08-14-2013, 08:18 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/49ers-d...1426--nfl.html

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SANTA CLARA, Calif. (AP) -- Over all those years and thousands of practice snaps, the stingy San Francisco defense never got to put a hit on Alex Smith.

And this is a group known for its vicious blows, from sack man Aldon Smith at linebacker to pounding safety Donte Whitner.

So, no surprise Smith's former teammates on the opposite side of the ball will be salivating to finally chase down the quarterback when they face him and the Chiefs in a preseason game at Kansas City on Friday night.

''There's a first time for everything,'' linebacker NaVorro Bowman said, smiling. ''We never got a chance to hit him. This time we can. We're looking forward to it. I know Alex knows we're coming. It's football, man. He's on another team and we have to go out there and play our game.''

Cornerback Carlos Rogers plans to talk trash - because, he insists, Smith will certainly be expecting it from this group.

''He'll probably come after me because we were always talking junk during practices while he was here. I'm going to take a look at the film and see what we can come up with,'' Rogers said. ''It will be really fun. I'm pretty sure he's going to be talking junk. He's going to want to go at our defense because now he gets the opportunity. When he was here we didn't really go against the 1 offense unless it was training camp.''

Smith has begun anew in the AFC with the Chiefs after being traded in March. He lost his starting job with San Francisco in November to Colin Kaepernick.

Smith certainly sounds as if he will leave the personal ties out of it Friday - rather focusing on preparing his offense with a matchup against one of the NFL's top defenses in recent years.

''Regardless of the fact that I used to play there, they're a good defensive unit,'' he said ''They're a really good defensive unit, and they'll be a good test for us. I mean, they don't have many weaknesses on that side of the ball. It'll be a really good test for us.''

49ers defensive line coach Jim Tomsula insists the razzing by his defenders is all in good fun. Tomsula started Smith for the regular season finale in 2010 in Tomsula's lone game as interim head coach following the firing of Mike Singletary.

''They're throwing that out there. That's an inside joke to Alex,'' Tomsula said. ''They all just like him so much, they really do. It's a good banter, is what it is.''

Given Smith's long history with the 49ers, an up-and-down, eight-year tenure - filled with numerous promotions and demotions, not to mention injuries - after they selected him with the No. 1 draft pick out of Utah in 2005, he still has many supporters in his old locker room.

Running back Frank Gore is rooting for him, tight end Vernon Davis, too. And Kaepernick, of course.

They have spoken a couple of times during the offseason, though Kaepernick declined to elaborate.

''He did a lot for me, Alex was someone that really helped me pick up the playbook, understand what we were trying to get done and how we wanted to do it,'' Kaepernick said Wednesday. ''I wouldn't be as far along as I am right now without him. Personally, he's a great guy, he's a class act. I have nothing bad to say about him. He's always helped me, he's always put the team first.''

It was Smith who took it upon himself to lead San Francisco's players in workouts at nearby San Jose State during the 2011 NFL lockout that became known as ''Camp Alex,'' a step in his leadership that put the team in position to end a franchise-worst stretch of eight seasons without a playoff berth or winning record. After all those boos from his own fans during the struggles, he had made good at last.

For his example, and so many other things, coach Jim Harbaugh is grateful to this day. Even if he made the tough choice to go with Kaepernick for last season's stretch run. Smith largely thrived under the direction of Harbaugh, a 15-year NFL quarterback himself.

''It's personal with Alex. It probably is different in that way,'' Harbaugh said. ''Feel like there's a great friendship there and a lot of history. He's a unique person. A very good, in all ways, a good friend. No longer on our team. Not a trusted agent anymore.''

Come Friday, both sides will try to keep all the mixed emotions off the field. Though the history will clearly provide some preseason fuel.

''Now we'll get a chance to hit him,'' Rogers said. ''He had on the jersey and we couldn't touch the quarterback, so I'm pretty sure our D-line will be happy about that, too.''

Notes: A day after safeties C.J. Spillman and Michael Thomas fought during practice and Spillman sent to the locker room, Harbaugh said he has handled the altercation. ''I think that's something that has no place in practice or training camp,'' Harbaugh said. ''Not to go into what the policy is right now as it's happened. It's been addressed.'' He wouldn't say whether they would play against the Chiefs. ... Harbaugh has ''a list of eight or nine guys'' he said won't travel to Kansas City, though he wouldn't say who they are other than that LT Joe Staley is likely on there. Staley returned to practice after missing four days with an undisclosed injury.

Sandy Vagina · 08-15-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

Actually, no.

2011 was ****ing brutal. Every win was garbage.

When you're piling up wins against guys like Curtis Painter and getting your dick knocked in the dirt against real teams, it's a pathetic year. Especially when you blow a playoff berth by losing to the ****ing Raiders and Carson Palmer.

Going 8-8 is like winning the reerun olympics.

Well that is a terrible attitude.. just my opinion. You can like it, hate it, or secretly know I am right and still hate it. That's really your cross to bear.

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

You are apparently incapable of understanding something simple about this. For me, I have picked my one and only team. 49ers come FIRST. There are tons of people that have other, secondarily preferred teams though... and there is nothing wrong with that.

Sure, there's nothing "WRONG" with that. It's not how I was raised, and I just can't take any enjoyment from "secondary" teams. But that's fine. I do think it precludes you from calling anyone who follows just one team and lives and dies with that team a "bad fan" though.

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Wrong again. You are going to extremes to make a point that easily fails. I never have a problem with some doubts. I have a problem with myopic people that are determined to believe in an outcome that has yet to occur.

That's not the impression you gave early, when people were still laying out fact-based criticisms and doubts of Alex Smith.

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Given that much of this community is based in immaturity and shame, then I consider it an accomplishment to not be regarded as decent here.

Mr. Laz · 08-15-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that 8 wins this year with Alex Smith at the helm registers no more with me than 2 wins (unless something drastic and unlikely happens, like him turning into an elite QB).

that pretty much exactly want you're saying

first you say 'They're not doing anything substantial with him(Smith) at QB this year or next"

second you say '8 wins this year registers no more than 2 wins' to you

you are basically already in the 'this season is over let's just lose and get a better draft' mode. You might not say it, but it's there nevertheless.

You're not alone, there is a huge 'Pouty Bitch' crowd at CPlanet nowadays, you fit right in.

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

A cowardly and childish way of thinking. It's like a little kid standing in the corner of a birthday party and pouting.

"what's wrong little Jimmy?"

"they said I can't eat Suzie's cake all by myself, those jerks!"

"well, wouldn't you enjoy a piece?"

"no!!! I must have it all right now, or I don't wants none!"

Losing 14 of 16 games is brutal, I know... makes for a truly awful year. Winning half of them instead sure does feel a lot better. Makes a team far more respectable, and would continue to give the players and most fans real hope that they are improving for the following season.

Believe me it is more heart breaking to go to the playoffs and not win one for ****ing 20 years. That is something you will never understand as a 49er bundle of sticks fan.

Sandy Vagina · 08-15-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You know you are coming here dissing our forum. Why don't you just **** off and get the **** out. No one wants to hear your shit. No one is asking you to stay.

Guess not. If I were the one caught ****ing a pie with tears in my eyes, I wouldn't want someone telling me shit and sticking around either. I'm forcing shame upon you for the greater good and all you can say is "boo hoo, GTFO!!!"

O.city · 08-15-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

that pretty much exactly want you're saying

first you say 'They're not doing anything substantial with him(Smith) at QB this year or next"

second you say '8 wins this year registers no more than 2 wins' to you

you are basically already in the 'this season is over let's just lose and get a better draft' mode. You might not say it, but it's there nevertheless.

You're not alone, there is a huge 'Pouty Bitch' crowd at CPlanet nowadays, you fit right in.

I'm guessing 27 wins over a 7 year period will do that to a fanbase

Sandy Vagina · 08-15-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Believe me it is more heart breaking to go to the playoffs and not win one for ****ing 20 years. That is something you will never understand as a 49er pillowbitergot fan.

There are no good or reasonable excuses for this behavior. Man up.

Kaepernick · 08-15-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The mental fortitude is the one thing about Smith that gives me hope that he ascends to a higher level of play than he has ever has.

He's suffered a mental beat down through the early years, and just kept getting back up for more.

He lacks confidence in his ability to attack deep zones.
He doesn't need a QB guru to get past that.
He just needs someone that believes in him to push.

Andy Reid might be that guy.

I wish you luck. If Andy gets more out of Alex than Harbaugh did, it is good. It is good for you fans. It is good for playoff competition. It is good for football overall. You can't have too many stud QBs in football or too much high quality play.

Obviously I don't share your optimism. I really feel that Alex's caution and risk averse mentality is a glass ceiling he can't rise above. I continue to say, if he had Aaron Rodgers's attacking mentality, he could be at or near top 10 QB level. But he doesn't. At the end of the day, he is too worried about making mistakes.

This is good 90% of the time, but there are always a few times in every losing game where a QB needs to take an appropriate risk to seek an appropriate reward. So far, we haven't seen Alex do that. You can't throw a 6 yard pass on 3rd and 19 and hope your receiver goes for 14 YAC. But that is the kind of caution we've seen from Alex over and over.

If Andy can perform some kind of Vulcan mind meld or Jedi mind trick to cure Alex of that, then you have yourself a gem. As long as Alex is risk averse, then he is never going to rise above mid-tier. He is a solid, competent QB who can guide a strong team through the playoffs to win a super bowl. If Dorsey drafts a power house around Alex, Alex can guide them to a super bowl win.

But as long as Alex is risk averse, he will never be more than a mid-tier QB.

But I wish you well. If Alex becomes a stud QB, it is good for the state of football overall, so good luck with that.

O.city · 08-15-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Guess not. If I were the one caught ****ing a pie with tears in my eyes, I wouldn't want someone telling me shit and sticking around either. I'm forcing shame upon you for the greater good and all you can say is "boo hoo, GTFO!!!"

Are you 12? Or just a moron?

Forcing shame? Really?

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Guess not. If I were the one caught ****ing a pie with tears in my eyes, I wouldn't want someone telling me shit and sticking around either. I'm forcing shame upon you for the greater good and all you can say is "boo hoo, GTFO!!!"

WTF you talking bout

Sandy Vagina · 08-15-2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That's not the impression you gave early, when people were still laying out fact-based criticisms and doubts of Alex Smith.

Well then, you have it wrong. I have stated many times the aforementioned when people misunderstood or used extremes to defend their predictions of doom.

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

There are no good or reasonable excuses for this behavior. Man up.

There are no good or reasonable excuses for you to come here and tell us how to be a fan and tell us how to act on this forum.

Sandy Vagina · 08-15-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Are you 12? Or just a moron?

Forcing shame? Really?

Well that was pretty rude for you, O.city. From what I read of you, none of this applies to you. I am much older than 12 and not a moron. (forum opinions vary on that, of course)

If I were a bitter fan and chicken little and someone called me on it, yeah.. that should induce some level of shame over thinking that way.

Kaepernick · 08-15-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

... and this bolded part above is all I am really saying. I am not expecting a damn church here.

And the key point is "for you". So get off your high horse and quit lecturing them about it. If it is over the top for you, you have 2 choices. Shut up or leave. It is your problem, not theirs.

That is why they are giving you grief. You are lecturing them on something they have no problem with. Keep it up and you are going to get blasted.

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

that pretty much exactly want you're saying

first you say 'They're not doing anything substantial with him(Smith) at QB this year or next"

second you say '8 wins this year registers no more than 2 wins' to you

you are basically already in the 'this season is over let's just lose and get a better draft' mode. You might not say it, but it's there nevertheless.

You're not alone, there is a huge 'Pouty Bitch' crowd at CPlanet nowadays, you fit right in.

I've seen more than enough mediocre seasons with no shot at winning anything substantial.

Winning 8 games this year does nothing for me. Unless, like I said, Alex Smith morphs into an elite QB while they do it. I don't BELIEVE that will happen and need to see it before I will believe it, but if it did, I would be excited (no matter the win total).