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Old 03-13-2017, 06:41 PM   #1
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Uhhh? That has to be an up to $8M. Wouldn't it be an $8M cap hit then?

We can't afford that right now.
Don't shoot the messenger. Details unclear at this point. ESPN report is all I've seen thus far.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:44 PM   #2
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Don't shoot the messenger. Details unclear at this point. ESPN report is all I've seen thus far.
Oh no nothing personal. Just very confused.

This means more moves have to be made. Restructures and/or cuts soon.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:47 PM   #3
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Oh no nothing personal. Just very confused.

This means more moves have to be made. Restructures and/or cuts soon.
Oh I took nothing personal - that number is puzzling. I am sure the answers will manifest shortly.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:02 AM   #4
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1 year, $8 million for Logan per ESPN

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-one-year-deal
Like how he works down the line.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:58 PM   #5
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Under the radar signing. We'll see how it works out. Still wishing for Hightower although we won't.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:04 PM   #6
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Watching Seth Keysor's breakdown and Logan is doing a far better job against the Steelers once than Poe did either time we played them.

I think being a good NT comes from pad level and lower power. Logan is 6'2" and just gets under OL and bull rushes them into the QB like Justin Houston.

Man it's gonna be fun seeing this front 7.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:32 PM   #7
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Holy ****.

$8 million? That better be BS.

Because if not, this team is showing a startling tendency towards paying market prices for the easiest positions on the field to fill in the draft.

Guard, box safety and 0 tech. Those are not high-skilled, high degree of difficulty positions. Those are positions you fill in the draft and surround with premier talent at higher priority positions to ensure they don't cripple you.

The positional value of where they've chosen to spend money this off-season is incredibly puzzling.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:38 PM   #8
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Holy ****.

$8 million? That better be BS.

Because if not, this team is showing a startling tendency towards paying market prices for the easiest positions on the field to fill in the draft.

Guard, box safety and 0 tech. Those are not high-skilled, high degree of difficulty positions. Those are positions you fill in the draft and surround with premier talent at higher priority positions to ensure they don't cripple you.

The positional value of where they've chosen to spend money this off-season is incredibly puzzling.
Unfortunately...

What all do you consider to be the premiere positions? I think it's scheme dependent, but in KC's case.

I would say obviously QB, edge rusher, and CB seem to be the positions that every team needs to be good at in terms of talent.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:10 PM   #9
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Holy ****.

$8 million? That better be BS.

Because if not, this team is showing a startling tendency towards paying market prices for the easiest positions on the field to fill in the draft.

Guard, box safety and 0 tech. Those are not high-skilled, high degree of difficulty positions. Those are positions you fill in the draft and surround with premier talent at higher priority positions to ensure they don't cripple you.

The positional value of where they've chosen to spend money this off-season is incredibly puzzling.
I thought quality zero techs in the 3-4 were super important and tough to find? I thought that's why Poe was so important when he was playing well?

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Old 03-13-2017, 08:19 PM   #10
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I thought auality zero techs in the 3-4 were super important and tough to find? I thought that's why Poe was so important when he was playing well?
All three positions in the 3-4 are important and critical. Especially with all the dime we play.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:22 PM   #11
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All three positions in the 3-4 are important and critical. Especially with all the dime we play.
Makes sense. It was just odd to hear DJ down play the position.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:46 PM   #12
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I thought quality zero techs in the 3-4 were super important and tough to find? I thought that's why Poe was so important when he was playing well?
Impact, 3-down zeros are exceptionally valuable and hard to find.

Big bodied run-stuffers that will play maybe 50% of our defensive snaps? Not so much.

We aren't looking at using Logan as a gap-splitting presence. He's going to be told to just stand there and occupy space. No, that's not tough to find.

It's like peak DJ vs. Joe Mays. DJ makes is position valuable because how well he's able to play it. But if you don't have an elite guy there, it doesn't make sense to spend a bunch of money on a limited player at a less critical position.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:20 PM   #13
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Impact, 3-down zeros are exceptionally valuable and hard to find.

Big bodied run-stuffers that will play maybe 50% of our defensive snaps? Not so much.

We aren't looking at using Logan as a gap-splitting presence. He's going to be told to just stand there and occupy space. No, that's not tough to find.
Seemed to make an indisputably huge impact in Philly...
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Impact, 3-down zeros are exceptionally valuable and hard to find.

Big bodied run-stuffers that will play maybe 50% of our defensive snaps? Not so much.

We aren't looking at using Logan as a gap-splitting presence. He's going to be told to just stand there and occupy space. No, that's not tough to find.

It's like peak DJ vs. Joe Mays. DJ makes is position valuable because how well he's able to play it. But if you don't have an elite guy there, it doesn't make sense to spend a bunch of money on a limited player at a less critical position.
I guess that all makes sense. I just remember talk about how Baltimore (and particularly Ray Lewis) was so successful in the 3-4 because they were able to find those elite 0 techs that bring the whole picture together.
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