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Old 02-29-2020, 12:30 AM   #1
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Sure sounds like he's not happy about the tag. If they have to trade him, hopefully they can get good value out of it.
To me, his reaction seemed rational. He wants to get a long term deal to stay in KC so bad...listen to his responses and he understands that there’s a chance he stays and a chance he goes...but that he clearly wants to stay.

He understands Veach is trying to keep him.

He just needs to decide what’s most important to him.

Top dollar or a winning career.

If he wants max $$$, he will likely be traded. If he’s interested in winning titles, he needs to understand that he needs to take a little less to stay on a stacked with talent team.
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Old 02-29-2020, 11:20 AM   #2
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To me, his reaction seemed rational. He wants to get a long term deal to stay in KC so bad...listen to his responses and he understands that there’s a chance he stays and a chance he goes...but that he clearly wants to stay.

He understands Veach is trying to keep him.

He just needs to decide what’s most important to him.

Top dollar or a winning career.

If he wants max $$$, he will likely be traded. If he’s interested in winning titles, he needs to understand that he needs to take a little less to stay on a stacked with talent team.

I wonder if you could save money by fully guaranteeing the contract, since that's the number that matters, anyway. Would Jones sign for $13M a year, if it were 100% fully guaranteed? Like 6 years, $78M?
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Old 02-29-2020, 11:23 AM   #3
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I wonder if you could save money by fully guaranteeing the contract, since that's the number that matters, anyway. Would Jones sign for $13M a year, if it were 100% fully guaranteed? Like 6 years, $78M?
Not a chance in hell and as a Chiefs fan that’s damn insulting. He deserves to get paid Frank Clark money. You don’t let an all time great DT go. You find a way to make it work. I trust in Veach
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Old 02-29-2020, 01:36 PM   #4
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Not a chance in hell and as a Chiefs fan that’s damn insulting. He deserves to get paid Frank Clark money. You don’t let an all time great DT go. You find a way to make it work. I trust in Veach
Frank Clark has 63M in guaranteed money. Jones would be getting more guaranteed money. Still, I wonder what the numbers are on percentage of total numbers that players get out of their contracts? Find that league average, go slightly below, and fully guarantee the money.
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Old 02-29-2020, 04:53 PM   #5
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I wonder if you could save money by fully guaranteeing the contract, since that's the number that matters, anyway. Would Jones sign for $13M a year, if it were 100% fully guaranteed? Like 6 years, $78M?
No way. Even offering him that would be a huge sign of disrespect that would lead to a holdout and getting minimal compensation in a trade.

The best case scenario is giving him a 3/60 type deal that lets him hit FA again in the new CBA while he’s still young enough to command another big contract.
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No way. Even offering him that would be a huge sign of disrespect that would lead to a holdout and getting minimal compensation in a trade.

The best case scenario is giving him a 3/60 type deal that lets him hit FA again in the new CBA while he’s still young enough to command another big contract.
interesting. I like this idea.
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Old 02-29-2020, 01:12 AM   #7
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Jones is gone. Trade probably.
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I don't think we "have" to but I do think we'll be much better off if we do. This is a draft where you really want to have two late #1 picks if you don't need a QB or tackle.

There is so much value in WR and ILB in this draft. An extra 1st and 3rd or better would be huge for our team moving forward.
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I don't think we "have" to but I do think we'll be much better off if we do. This is a draft where you really want to have two late #1 picks if you don't need a QB or tackle.

There is so much value in WR and ILB in this draft. An extra 1st and 3rd or better would be huge for our team moving forward.
So would having a DT with DMVP potential.

I swear some of you would win a million dollars on a lottery ticket and use the money to buy a million dollars worth of lottery tickets.
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So would having a DT with DMVP potential.

I swear some of you would win a million dollars on a lottery ticket and use the money to buy a million dollars worth of lottery tickets.
The Chiefs have the 2nd best defensive lineman in the NFL in Chris Jones, and I swear, all I've seen since the Chiefs won the Super Bowl is how they should "Trade Him" for some unknown prospect who looks good in his underwear.

It's ludicrous. The man was an integral part of the 2018 and 2019 playoff teams and if it weren't for CJ's play in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs may have lost the game.

Yet "Let's trade him because this is a great wide receiver class!", as if the Chiefs don't already have two great wide receivers under contract for 2020.
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The Chiefs have the 2nd best defensive lineman in the NFL in Chris Jones, and I swear, all I've seen since the Chiefs won the Super Bowl is how they should "Trade Him" for some unknown prospect who looks good in his underwear.
This is true. These guys looked good in their underwear over the weekend, but Chris Jones was so good at the combine that his giant ass cock flew out of his underwear.

He truly is a unicorn
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The Chiefs have the 2nd best defensive lineman in the NFL in Chris Jones, and I swear, all I've seen since the Chiefs won the Super Bowl is how they should "Trade Him" for some unknown prospect who looks good in his underwear.

It's ludicrous. The man was an integral part of the 2018 and 2019 playoff teams and if it weren't for CJ's play in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs may have lost the game.

Yet "Let's trade him because this is a great wide receiver class!", as if the Chiefs don't already have two great wide receivers under contract for 2020.
He already turned down a 100m contract my man. He's way too expensive for what he brings. You hamstring your team when you allocate that much cap space for two defensive players in Jones and Clark.
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