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Old 01-11-2021, 01:07 PM  
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:25 PM   #121
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Thats alot of variables. I do agree that they need to grab Chase or Smith. That team's WR core was disaster.
Yea but not necessarily unrealistic either.

Their OL can’t be any worse personnel or health wise.

Chase or Smith will certainly be within reach. They might even have their choice.

The only big ? is the HC.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:09 PM   #122
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Yea but not necessarily unrealistic either.

Their OL can’t be any worse personnel or health wise.

Chase or Smith will certainly be within reach. They might even have their choice.

The only big ? is the HC.
If they could get rid of Wentz it would change everything but no one besides MAYBE Indy would ever take that deal on. You'd have to figure they go offensively minded for the HC if they're gonna try and fix Wentz. This really might be a Kafka landing spot. Someone with some QB exp. Daboll or Arthur Smith of the Tits would also make some sense.

I've seen ppl bring up EB but idk about that one.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:54 PM   #123
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Right or wrong It must be because they attribute the majority of his success to Mahomes and Reid. I’d be really skeptical about the Reid tree right now if I were hiring a head coach.

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I don't know about that. The Chiefs fingerprints are all over the entire league, especially in the playoffs.

Buffalo is 100% Andy Reid tree with McDermott and Leslie Frazier.

Ravens too (Harbaugh).

The Browns were obviously partially built by Dorsey, and Stefanski interned with one of Reid's Eagles teams and got his first job with Brad Childress, who is definitely Reid tree.

Then you have the Colts who are totally connected to the Chiefs and the Reid tree through Ballard/Reich. That's over half the AFC.

Then in the NFC you have Ron Rivera and Nagy getting their teams to the playoffs this year, and Todd Bowles coaches Tampa's defense. You could say half the playoff teams are connected to Reid in some way and the one guy who's won the Super Bowl didn't even make it. I'd rather take a shot with Reid than Belichick at this point.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:08 PM   #124
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I don't know about that. The Chiefs fingerprints are all over the entire league, especially in the playoffs.

Buffalo is 100% Andy Reid tree with McDermott and Leslie Frazier.

Ravens too (Harbaugh).

The Browns were obviously partially built by Dorsey, and Stefanski interned with one of Reid's Eagles teams and got his first job with Brad Childress, who is definitely Reid tree.

Then you have the Colts who are totally connected to the Chiefs and the Reid tree through Ballard/Reich. That's over half the AFC.

Then in the NFC you have Ron Rivera and Nagy getting their teams to the playoffs this year, and Todd Bowles coaches Tampa's defense. You could say half the playoff teams are connected to Reid in some way and the one guy who's won the Super Bowl didn't even make it. I'd rather take a shot with Reid than Belichick at this point.
Agreed.

Plus, Reid's disciples have had success, with Harbaugh having 2 SBs and Pedersen's 1.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:26 PM   #125
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:10 PM   #127
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Agreed.

Plus, Reid's disciples have had success, with Harbaugh having 2 SBs and Pedersen's 1.
When was Harbaugh's second superbowl?
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You mean THESE guys?
Call me sick but that made me laugh.
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When was Harbaugh's second superbowl?
I'm a dumbass who equated the Ravens 2 SBs in Franchise history to Harbaugh, even though the first one was Billick, it feels like Harbaugh has coached that franchise since they moved...

But hell, Ted Marchibroda was coach before Billick, and I remember that...but DO I really?
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So where are all the media and players screaming about Pederson wouldn't have been fired if he were white? Oh wait........
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Troy Aikman says Eagles' Doug Pederson firing due to coach preferring Jalen Hurts over Carson Wentz

Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie's decision to part with Doug Pederson likely came down to a difference of opinion at who the team's quarterback will be moving forward, according to former NFL quarterback and Pro Football Hall of Famer Troy Aikman.

Aikman, during a recent appearance on former teammate Michael Irvin's podcast, said he spoke to the former Eagles coach the day after the Eagles fired him, which came three years after Pederson led the franchise to its first Super Bowl title. Based on his conversion with Pederson, Aikman believes that Lurie's decision to move in a different direction came down to Pederson's desire to move forward with Jalen Hurts at quarterback.

"I sensed that here Jeff Lurie, the owner, has paid a lot of money to Carson Wentz, and they're on the hook with him," Aikman said. "They can't get out of that contract right away. And yet, it's my belief that Doug Pederson felt that Jalen Hurts was probably the quarterback going forward."

The 28-year-old Wentz is signed through the 2023 season with a potential out after the '21 season. The No. 2 overall pick in the 2016 draft, Wentz earned Pro Bowl honors in 2017 before suffering a season-ending injury in Week 14. The Eagles, with Nick Foles under center, would go on to defeat the Patriots to capture their first championship, with Foles winning Super Bowl MVP honors.

After injuries cut his 2018 season short, Wentz didn't miss a game in 2019, as he threw for a career-high 4,039 yards with 27 touchdowns and just seven interceptions. Wentz fell well short of those numbers in 2020, however, as he threw a league high 15 interceptions while completing just 57.4% of his passes. Wentz's struggles led to Pederson turning to Hurts, who received four starts during his rookie season. Hurts ran for two touchdowns in the Eagles' regular season finale before he was controversially pulled from the game in favor of fellow backup Nate Sudfeld.

While Aikman acknowledged that the Eagles' injury issues and a lack of a consistent running game hindered his effectiveness in 2020, he also pointed out that Wentz compounded the issue by committing turnovers and holding onto the ball.

"He would not give up on a play," Aikman said, "and sometimes that's admirable, but when you're getting hit by six guys and you could have gone down on the first hit and you're not going anywhere, there's a time to live to fight another day."

As far as Wentz's future is concerned, Aikman believes that he has "been beating down pretty good because of the struggles around him. It's going to be a project as to whoever becomes the head coach, I think, that they're going to have to build him up and see if they can get him back to where he has the confdience again to where he can go out and play at a high level.

"But it has been a long time since I've seen Carson Wentz really play at the level that he needs to play at or any quarterback needs to play out."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/t...-carson-wentz/
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