Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine

[kcbubb]

The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those. In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”

It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.

Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.

“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”

However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...id-19-vaccine/

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

What is it with people in this country and constantly blabbing on about "liberty". Most of the developed world has "liberty", it's not unique. We live in a society where there are certain requirements and standards by which people should live for the greater good. I'm not some left-wing socialist nutjob, but I'm not an asshole that solely makes decisions in life over what is good for me and me alone.

Should I have the liberty to drive 100 MPH on the freeway regardless of the danger to others?

Should I have the liberty to shout "Gun" or "Fire" in a crowded movie theater?


People already have vaccine requirements in life to attend school or university. Does that infringe on your liberty?

As I said before Pfizer is already in the process of filing for full FDA approval as we speak. Not sure how long that will take, but I imagine it won't be too far off. I wonder if everyone crying about this being an experimental drug will pivot to some other complaint or move the goalposts on why they don't want to take the vaccine.

Nice ramble but I don’t think you are differentiating between “rights” and “privileges”. It’s ok, many don’t.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by O.city

Discussing and informing is different than brow beating.

One works alot better than the other.

Wilifully ignorant dumb****s deserve brow beating when they don't listen to discussion or information.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Your choice but you just said

"I don't care what the data says, I only care about what my opinion is."

Which is the problem with this whole thing. People are just operating off emotion and fear.

No I didn't. The data says a COVID shot is safer than getting COVID.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

Who is "their"? This thing has affected all of us. People asking other people to follow mitigation efforts and to get stuck are doing so for their benefit, yes, and the benefit of all of us so we can get this shit over with.

It's not that hard to understand.

At some point you forfeit your right to complain about lockdowns and mask mandates if your are not willing to be part of the solution and it is just human nature to have animosity towards someone who is you think deliberately trying to keep you from achieving your goals, not saying that is what people are doing but it might be perceived that way .

I think everyone wants to go back to normal and at this point vaccines are our best bet .

[Donger]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

To be fair, a lot people never wanted to go into draconian lockdown measures with this before a vaccine and looking at the data now with states that had harsh lockdowns vs other that didn't eh kinda looking like that shit didn't matter.


Its almost like a virus is going to make it's rounds regardless.

Which data?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

To be fair, a lot people never wanted to go into draconian lockdown measures with this before a vaccine and looking at the data now with states that had harsh lockdowns vs other that didn't eh kinda looking like that shit didn't matter.


Its almost like a virus is going to make it's rounds regardless.

It had almost nothing to do with stopping the virus. It was put in place so that everyone didn’t get the shit at once and flood the hospitals.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Donger

Who is "their"? This thing has affected all of us. People asking other people to follow mitigation efforts and to get stuck are doing so for their benefit, yes, and the benefit of all of us so we can get this shit over with.

It's not that hard to understand.

That's just the thing.

We wore masks for the benefit of all and to get this over with. It's not over.

We stayed home. Not over.

We closed down business and ruined people's lives to make it stop. Not over.

Can you see what people might be a little wary that the vaccine isn't actually going to end this? It's not like the people in charge have a track record of success with any of this. The response has been pretty horrible across the board, despite a regime change in the middle of it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Your choice but you just said

"I don't care what the data says, I only care about what my opinion is."

Which is the problem with this whole thing. People are just operating off emotion and fear.

Some of us are operating off of knowledge/facts while the other side is operating based off of feelings.

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I don't get how people don't understand this. I have been vaccinated, my wife got hers this week, a lot of my friends have been vaccinated.

A lot of my friends don't want to do it and probably wont get vaccinated.

I understand why they are hesitant, it is what it is.

Exactly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Monticore

At some point you forfeit your right to complain about lockdowns and mask mandates if your are not willing to be part of the solution and it is just human nature to have animosity towards someone who is you think deliberately trying to keep you from achieving your goals, not saying that is what people are doing but it might be perceived that way .

I think everyone wants to go back to normal and at this point vaccines are our best bet .

What about those of us that DID participate in part of the solution and have been watching the line in the sand move back and back and back for the better part of a year.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's just the thing.

We wore masks for the benefit of all and to get this over with. It's not over.

We stayed home. Not over.

We closed down business and ruined people's lives to make it stop. Not over.

Can you see what people might be a little wary that the vaccine isn't actually going to end this? It's not like the people in charge have a track record of success with any of this. The response has been pretty horrible across the board, despite a regime change in the middle of it.

Masks don't have 95% efficacy.

We've lost almost 600,000 Americans even with the mitigation efforts we enacted. I think the argument is pretty well-established at this point.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

This,

If you are scared or worried get the vaccine. If you are not, dont get it.


Why is this so hard to understand, your health is not my problem.

You're a ****ing moron who can't see past your own nose. Welcome to a society, your health IS my problem.

When your health lands you in the ICU, and they can't treat me with the same attention and care, because you're hooked up to seven different machines, then yes, your health ****ing affects me.

When you're perfectly willing to be infected, and that infection creates mutations that make my vaccine less effective, then YES YOUR HEALTH AFFECTS ME.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Exactly.

Not exactly.

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

It had almost nothing to do with stopping the virus. It was put in place so that everyone didn’t get the shit at once and flood the hospitals.

AND IT WENT ON FOR A YEAR LOL

That was never the message at first, it was slow the spread for two weeks.

That is my point people don't have a lot of trust in what's being said about all this. Partly because a bunch of decisions were made on no data because we had none and we still don't have all we need,

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

You old ****s freak out this much when seatbelts were made mandatory?

This old **** didn't, but many, many people did.