Chris Simms: "JuJu's Injury is Patrick Mahomes Fault"

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Around the 0:30 and 3:30 mark. This is quite a wild take from Chris Simms, victim blaming Mahomes for throwing to the open receiver.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

Juan Thornhill a month ago.

That was Justin Reid 2 years ago. And he led with his shoulder and hit Tyreek in the armpit.

Helmet-to-helmet contact is illegal in the NFL, period.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Def not click bait. It was a mild comment in a conversation that had nothing to do with Mahomes.

If you heard the conversation and podcast in its entirety there's no way you could come to the conclusion that it was some designed click bait.

I hadn't listened to it, so didn't know if it was Simms clickbait or OP was overblowing it, but.... it's pretty bad.

The comment about "get your receiver killed" is clearly placing blame on Mahomes, as opposed to just asking the question if Mahomes should take any of the blame, or simply saying he's partly to blame.

And then at the 3:30 mark that was pointed out, he wants QBs fined?!? "There are no repercussions!" Uh, they do lose their receiver... and fined?!?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That was Justin Reid 2 years ago. And he led with his shoulder and hit Tyreek in the armpit.

Helmet-to-helmet contact is illegal in the NFL, period.

I was comparing that hit to the MVS hit, not the Juju hit which I already said should have been a penalty.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

I was comparing that hit to the MVS hit, not the Juju hit which I already said should have been a penalty.

Okay gotcha.

[KC_Connection]

The time to stop taking Chris Simms seriously was when he started calling Josh Allen a better QB than Patrick Mahomes. That means he's either too stupid to recognize what Mahomes is or he's trolling with hot takes for hits/views. Either way, it's not worth listening to.

[Megatron96]

Lol, CP is hilarious. When Simms says Mahomes is the greatest QB ever, or JuJu is doing great, or whatever, he's a great analyst. When he says anything critical of KC, he's an idiot.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, CP is hilarious. When Simms says Mahomes is the greatest QB ever, or JuJu is doing great, or whatever, he's a great analyst. When he says anything critical of KC, he's an idiot.

Yes

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, CP is hilarious. When Simms says Mahomes is the greatest QB ever, or JuJu is doing great, or whatever, he's a great analyst. When he says anything critical of KC, he's an idiot.

Why is that hilarious?

If you say things that are correct, obviously you are doing a good job and you are being a good analyst.

Say completely incorrect things, or wildly stupid things, then yes, you're being an idiot.

Great analysts have said some dumb shit over the years. It happens.

It's really okay to call out dumb shit, and approve of good things. It doesn't need to be one way or the other 100% of the time to have credibility.

But who am I kidding, I'm responding to the guy that thought the close of the first half of the Jaguars game was totally fine, and nobody should have had anything negative to say about that shitshow, because we were going to win the game anyway.

I don't expect you to be able to grasp the concept.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Why is that hilarious?

If you say things that are correct, obviously you are doing a good job and you are being a good analyst.

Say completely incorrect things, or wildly stupid things, then yes, you're being an idiot.

Great analysts have said some dumb shit over the years. It happens.

It's really okay to call out dumb shit, and approve of good things. It doesn't need to be one way or the other 100% of the time to have credibility.

But who am I kidding, I'm responding to the guy that thought the close of the first half of the Jaguars game was totally fine, and nobody should have had anything negative to say about that shitshow, because we were going to win the game anyway.

I don't expect you to be able to grasp the concept.

It's hilarious that you have to be so polar about everything. If any commentator says anything that isn't 100% "Mahomes is great and always in the fight," some of you dipsticks have to scream at clouds, even when just a week ago you were all praising the same guy for his incredibly well-thought out analysis. Just look at yourselves.


It doesn't have to be an either/or. Why is it that when Simms say anything even remotely not in Mahomes' favor, he's automatically "wildly wrong?"

Answer: it's probably that he's not wrong, it's that Chief Fan is unable to grasp any nuanced opinion(s).

And what part of the end of the JAX game are you referring to, just so I know what I'm being accused of. Again.

Had to edit this post. WC isn't pro-Chiefs, he's just pro-Mahomes. Outside of Pat, he hates the coaching staff, the GM, and more than half the players.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It's hilarious that you have to be so polar about everything. If any commentator says anything that isn't 100% "Mahomes is great and always in the fight," some of you dipsticks have to scream at clouds, even when just a week ago you were all praising the same guy for his incredibly well-thought out analysis. Just look at yourselves.


It doesn't have to be an either/or. Why is it that when Simms say anything even remotely not in Mahomes' favor, he's automatically "wildly wrong?"

Answer: it's probably that he's not wrong, it's that Chief Fan is unable to grasp any nuanced opinion(s).

And what part of the end of the JAX game are you referring to, just so I know what I'm being accused of. Again.

Had to edit this post. WC isn't pro-Chiefs, he's just pro-Mahomes. Outside of Pat, he hates the coaching staff, the GM, and more than half the players.

Simms has an opinion. We looked at the same video, and many of have a legit disagreement about something he finds obvious from the same play.

Look, I do like Simms. I really do. But there are times when he's wrong. That goes for all of these analysts, including the ones I really really respect like Brett Kollmann. It's hard to talk about something for several hours each day on TV and not get at least a couple things wrong from time to time. And that's EVEN when Simms has had more than 24 hours to prepare something. Remember that time only 2-3 years ago when he did an offseason ranking of the WRs and he put Courtland Sutton on there but not Davante Adams in spite of the wide disparity in career numbers and stats?

We think he's wrong, and as people have broken down from the play that happened, there is a legit side to the argument that he's wrong. It's not just Chiefs fan bias, man. Yes, you can agree with Simms, too. Sometimes there are two opposing views that both have merit depending on interpretation.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, CP is hilarious. When Simms says Mahomes is the greatest QB ever, or JuJu is doing great, or whatever, he's a great analyst. When he says anything critical of KC, he's an idiot.

Mahomes isn't the greatest QB playing right now? He hasn't had the best start to a career in NFL history?

So ya propping Allen above him IS the DEFINITION of a hot take to drum up interest

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Simms has an opinion. We looked at the same video, and many of have a legit disagreement about something he finds obvious from the same play.

Look, I do like Simms. I really do. But there are times when he's wrong. That goes for all of these analysts, including the ones I really really respect like Brett Kollmann. It's hard to talk about something for several hours each day on TV and not get at least a couple things wrong from time to time. And that's EVEN when Simms has had more than 24 hours to prepare something. Remember that time only 2-3 years ago when he did an offseason ranking of the WRs and he put Courtland Sutton on there but not Davante Adams in spite of the wide disparity in career numbers and stats?

We think he's wrong, and as people have broken down from the play that happened, there is a legit side to the argument that he's wrong. It's not just Chiefs fan bias, man. Yes, you can agree with Simms, too. Sometimes there are two opposing views that both have merit depending on interpretation.

Everybody can be wrong. However, what are the odds Sims is wrong vs. WC or you or whoever?

Chris Simms is a former starting NFL QB, with more than a decade of experience playing football at a very high competitive level. And then on top of that he's an expert professional football analyst for however many years.

Anyone here have those credentials?

You? WC?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

SNR is going to tear you up for going that route Dolphin style

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Man from the All 22 angle right as Patrick threw the ball…Juju looks open with some space in front of him.

It closed fast but damn.

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

It's not correct. That wasn't a "tight window" throw. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Juju was WIDE OPEN and Cisco was engaged with another WR. He bounced off and hit Juju with a cheap shot.

These. I remember watching the replay on TV and thinking how the hell did Cisco get there so fast?

Credit to his closing speed by from my armchair it looked like the right throw to me.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Mahomes isn't the greatest QB playing right now? He hasn't had the best start to a career in NFL history?

So ya propping Allen above him IS the DEFINITION of a hot take to drum up interest

Uh, wat? you must be thinking of someone else, because I've always said, since the end of the 2018 season, that Mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen.

And nowhere in this thread have I stated anything to the effect of "Josh Allen is better than Mahomes." So respectfully, what the hell are you talking about?