Nate Taylor with a lot of middle-to-big-sized news yesterday.

[Direckshun]

This interview had a lot of nuggets in it. Some small, some medium sized, maybe one huge.

• "snowglobe" was put together roughly a year ago, and can neither confirm or deny it was a dunk on the Raiders circling the stadium a couple years back
• like the Ferrari plays, "snowglobe" was almost certainly a Mahomes concept before Reid/Bienemy refined it
• Frank Clark is perfectly fine
• the Chiefs want to re-sign JuJu Smith-Schuster
• Brett Veach has been a Justin Watson fan for several years, seems likely he'll re-sign him
• the Chiefs will draft a WR this year at some point
• the Chiefs could very well make an offer to Willie Gay this offseason, but Gay may choose to play out the remainder of his contract anyway
• highly indicated the Chiefs will probably make an offer to L'Jarius Sneed
• probably the biggest news: the Chiefs are going to shop Clyde Edwards-Helaire all offseason and preseason

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Juju turned down a $14 million contract with Baltimore to come here. I think he would do a team friendly deal.

JMO

He had to know that Baltimore is not the place a wide receiver goes to maximize future earnings.

[Dante84]

MVS + CEH + 5th = Hopkins?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think he'll end up getting a BETTER offer than Kirk got.

I don't think his agent takes the call from anyone offering less.

Man......nah, no thanks on that.

I'm pro JJSS if it's reasonable, but damn.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think he'll end up getting a BETTER offer than Kirk got.

I don't think his agent takes the call from anyone offering less.

Maaan, i just don't see it.

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by O.city

Man......nah, no thanks on that.

I'm pro JJSS if it's reasonable, but damn.

If I remember correct, Spotrac has JJSS Calculated Market Value at $14.6M AAV, and Kirk is getting $18M AAV... so it's not far off.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

He had to know that Baltimore is not the place a wide receiver goes to maximize future earnings.

I think Baltimore even calls the position "Wide Blocker" now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcgreene

If I remember correct, Spotrac has JJSS Calculated Market Value at $14.6M AAV, and Kirk is getting $18M AAV... so it's not far off.

Wanna bet that Spotrac didn't have Kirk's AAV any higher than $14.6 million heading into LAST offseason?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think Baltimore even calls the position "Wide Blocker" now.

So would McKinnon be listed under 'tight receiver' under a similar naming scheme?

Tailreceiver? Halfreciever?

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wanna bet that Spotrac didn't have Kirk's AAV any higher than $14.6 million heading into LAST offseason?

No argument there, but I don't think that the Jags making a move that made sense to literally nobody in the footaball world is anything that anyone could account for, nor something that will happen 2 years back to back.

The market overadjusted, and you're already seeing actions occur to adjust it back (The AJ Brown trade being one such action)

I'm not saying Spotrac is a soothsayer, but I am saying that usually they provide a pretty solid jumping off point.

[O.city]

Here's the thing though, as much as everyone jumps for joy with the "the cap is rising" stuff, they fail to mention that player salaries do as well.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Here's the thing though, as much as everyone jumps for joy with the "the cap is rising" stuff, they fail to mention that player salaries do as well.

Yup.

It's why I caution folks against using the 'available cap space' approach.

Look at where we are relative to the league. And then look at where we are in terms of players under contract for next season.

Because the cap going up by 15% means that every agent in the world is gonna start with 2022PlayerX+15% as his opening salvo.

Those guys do this for a living - they ain't stupid.

If we have $40 million in cap space and there are 20 teams in the league who have more than that (or around that and 5 more players under contract than we do), then we're still not going to be in a position to be major players in the FA market.

The only ENORMOUS advantage we have over everyone else when it comes to the rising cap is that our All-Universe Quarterback is under contract for a decade at figures that would be nearly manageable under the present cap figures.

The surplus value built into his deal is going to be so absurd as to almost require that we go back to the table with him at some point in the next 3-5 years like we did with Kelce this year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yup.

It's why I caution folks against using the 'available cap space' approach.

Look at where we are relative to the league. And then look at where we are in terms of players under contract for next season.

Because the cap going up by 15% means that every agent in the world is gonna start with 2022PlayerX+15% as his opening salvo.

Those guys do this for a living - they ain't stupid.

If we have $40 million in cap space and there are 20 teams in the league who have more than that (or around that and 5 more players under contract than we do), then we're still not going to be in a position to be major players in the FA market.

The only ENORMOUS advantage we have over everyone else when it comes to the rising cap is that our All-Universe Quarterback is under contract for a decade at figures that would be nearly manageable under the present cap figures.

The surplus value built into his deal is going to be so absurd as to almost require that we go back to the table with him at some point in the next 3-5 years like we did with Kelce this year.

I'm guessing they tear up his deal and do a new one in 3 or 4 years, right? YOu pretty much have to.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by RunKC

To play Justin Watson’s role, which is the 3rd most snaps at WR this year.

If you listen to the pod in the OP, Veach was a big fan of Watson at the senior bowl. Didn’t get him, so he brought him in last February before FA.

Nate himself said it was their best sneaky acquisition that helped them win the division.

Watson was signed to a futures deal guys. Expectations were low. They didn’t expect him to be this good. As Nate pointed out, Watson cooked JC Jackson in the 2nd game of the year. He’s done a nice job. Patrick was even surprised with how fast Watson was in the off-season.

Skyy isn’t getting Watson’s snaps

Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Dante84

MVS + CEH + 5th = Hopkins?

What is everyone's deal with MVS? Sheesh.

[chiefzilla1501]

Still not crazy about either guy. We will be spending $25m - $30m on a slow guy who is more of a possession WR and a fast guy who can’t do much else. I don’t want to hear that we can’t afford a WR1. Pay the money for a WR1. Use the draft to fill in everybody else. I’m good with skyy, Toney, Watson and a relentless focus on finding good WRs in the draft. I like juju but I can’t fathom resigning the guy for big money in a wr room that lacks a wr1.