***** The Official Chiefs cut down to 53 Thread*****

[big nasty kcnut]

So any news post here on release, signing and practice squad adds
Released
Blanton, Kendall (TE - Missouri)
Bush, Deon (DB - Miami)
Reiter, Austin (C - South Florida)
Shelton, Danny (NT - Washington)
Waived
Bootle, Dicaprio (DB - Nebraska)
Boye-Doe, Ekow (DB - Kansas State)
Buechele, Shane (QB - Southern Methodist)
Bushman, Matt (TE - Brigham Young)
Christiansen, Cole (LB - Army)
Cook, Anthony (DB - Texas)
Ealy, Jerrion (RB - Mississippi)
Fryfogle, Ty (WR - Indiana)
Gathings, Izaiah (WR - Middle Tennessee)
Godrick, Chukwuebuka (T - No College)
Green, Juwan (WR - Albany, N.Y.)
Gutierrez, Sebastian (T - Minot State)
Hailassie, Kahlef (DB - Western Kentucky)
Hardy, Anderson (T - Appalachian State)
Hoskins, Phil (DT - Kentucky)
Jackson, Lamar (DB - Nebraska)
Jones, Truman (DE - Harvard)
Kaindoh, Joshua (DE - Florida State)
Kinnard, Darian (T - Kentucky)
Lowe, Duron (DB - Liberty)
Norman, Isaiah (DB - Marshall)
Oladokun, Chris (QB - South Dakota State)
Perine, La'Mical (RB - Florida)
Powell, Cornell (WR - Clemson)
Prince, Deneric (RB - Tulsa)
Scott, Ty (WR - Missouri State)
Taylor, Reese (DB - Purdue)
Williams, Chris (DT - Wagner)
Wise, Daniel (DE - Kansas)
Waived, Injured
Carvin, Jerome (G - Tennessee)
Fatukasi, Olakunle (LB - Rutgers)
Remigio, Nikko (WR - Fresno State)
Traded to Panthers
Smith-Marsette, Ihmir (WR - Iowa)
Reserve/Did Not Report
Jones, Chris (DT - Mississippi State)
Acquired Via Trade with Raiders
Farrell, Neil (DT - Louisiana State)

[DrunkBassGuitar]

so the afc north is basically what the afc west was supposed to be last year

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

so the afc north is basically what the afc west was supposed to be last year

The afc north is the afc west, just without Reid and Mahomes.

[Quesadilla Joe]

From Breer, on Chris Jones:

Spoiler!

The Chiefs and Chris Jones have an under-the-radar deadline coming tomorrow. Jones’s holdout has now been going for well over a month. And as of Sunday, he’s accrued a whopping $1.8 million in fines. If he doesn’t show by Tuesday, he’ll be putting even more cash in peril.

In Article 20 of the CBA, there’s a rule that sets a deadline for five days before the end of the preseason (which is Tuesday) for a player to report. If he doesn’t, then a team can use a roster exemption to withhold game checks from him even after he reports.

So here’s how it works: At the cutdown, which is 4 p.m. ET Tuesday, the Chiefs will move Jones—if he hasn’t reported—to the reserve/did not report list. If he shows up, say, a week later, then Kansas City would likely apply for a two-game roster exemption during which the Chiefs can carry Jones without using a roster spot. And under this rule, if Jones doesn’t report by Tuesday, the Chiefs can choose not to pay Jones while using that exemption on him (once he’s activated, obviously, they will have to pay him).

That means if Kansas City holds Jones out for two games to prepare him for games, it’d be entitled to keep those two game checks, which would add up to $2.22 million and add to the money Jones is already using on fines. And, sure, Jones would probably ask the Chiefs not to do that in exchange for his reporting, but it’s another leverage point for the team.

Will Jones report Tuesday? The tone of negotiations makes it seem unlikely. The sides have been at a stalemate for weeks, with the Aaron Donald number ($31.7 million average annual value) wreaking havoc on this negotiation—the Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid. So the sizable gap (more than $7 million per year) from one number to another has left Jones and the team at an impasse.

I also don’t think whatever Nick Bosa gets in San Francisco is going to change the stance of either player or team in this case—if anyone thinks that’s the shoe that has to drop.

Bosa is going to be the highest-paid edge rusher of all time. The question to me is whether he’ll get past Donald and to $32 million per year, which would make him the highest-paid defensive player of all time.

Remember, T.J. Watt got $28 million per year two years ago from the Steelers, and it’s easy to make the argument that Bosa’s the superior player. And you can add the 24 months of inflation to that total.

That said, this isn’t—and hasn’t been—an easy negotiation for obvious reasons. But the Niners have a good history of taking care of their own and digging out of sideways contract negotiations—with the Deebo Samuel situation a good example of one that got a little ugly and ultimately resulted in zero games missed by the star receiver. So I’d trust GM John Lynch, EVP of football operations Paraag Marathe and vice president of football administration Brian Hampton to get a deal done with Bosa’s agent, Brian Ayrault.

This is, without question, a critical week to get there, and that things have remained quiet and cordial (the Niners fully understand how the Bosas have a history of being very business-minded, as a team would be) gives everyone the best shot to accomplish that.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/28/ch...line-takeaways

[tyecopeland]

Why are we talking about the afc north in the Chiefs cuts thread?

[Wilson8]

Different things Chiefs might do in creating their 2023 original 53-man roster.

1. Keep two (2) TEs with their original 53-man roster. Kelce and Gray for sure on roster and cutting Bell, Bushman, Blanton, and Gathings. None of these four have guaranteed money. Either Bell or Bushman could be re-signed after other moves are made.

2. Keep two (2) QBS in Mahomes and Gabbert with the idea that they could sign to Practice Squad either Buechele or Oladokun.

3. Keep eight (8) WRs. People have talked about the traditional 6 with the possibility of maybe going as high as 7 but they might go higher. Chiefs have MVS, Toney, Moore, Rice, James, Watson, Ross, and Ihmir Smith-Marsette has had a very good preseason. Maybe they keep 8 with Toney going on IR for 4 weeks after the 53-man roster is established.

4. Keep three (3) RBs. Pacheco, McKinnon, and Perine with Prince on Practice Squad and CEH traded or cut.

5. Keep 7 (7) CBs. Sneed, McDuffie, Williams, Watson, Jones, Boye-Doe, and Hailassie. If Sneed not ready to return, this move might be necessary.

[BigBeauford]

I've never been this anxious for a Tuesday.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

From Breer, on Chris Jones:

Spoiler!

The Chiefs and Chris Jones have an under-the-radar deadline coming tomorrow. Jones’s holdout has now been going for well over a month. And as of Sunday, he’s accrued a whopping $1.8 million in fines. If he doesn’t show by Tuesday, he’ll be putting even more cash in peril.

In Article 20 of the CBA, there’s a rule that sets a deadline for five days before the end of the preseason (which is Tuesday) for a player to report. If he doesn’t, then a team can use a roster exemption to withhold game checks from him even after he reports.

So here’s how it works: At the cutdown, which is 4 p.m. ET Tuesday, the Chiefs will move Jones—if he hasn’t reported—to the reserve/did not report list. If he shows up, say, a week later, then Kansas City would likely apply for a two-game roster exemption during which the Chiefs can carry Jones without using a roster spot. And under this rule, if Jones doesn’t report by Tuesday, the Chiefs can choose not to pay Jones while using that exemption on him (once he’s activated, obviously, they will have to pay him).

That means if Kansas City holds Jones out for two games to prepare him for games, it’d be entitled to keep those two game checks, which would add up to $2.22 million and add to the money Jones is already using on fines. And, sure, Jones would probably ask the Chiefs not to do that in exchange for his reporting, but it’s another leverage point for the team.

Will Jones report Tuesday? The tone of negotiations makes it seem unlikely. The sides have been at a stalemate for weeks, with the Aaron Donald number ($31.7 million average annual value) wreaking havoc on this negotiation—the Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid. So the sizable gap (more than $7 million per year) from one number to another has left Jones and the team at an impasse.

I also don’t think whatever Nick Bosa gets in San Francisco is going to change the stance of either player or team in this case—if anyone thinks that’s the shoe that has to drop.

Bosa is going to be the highest-paid edge rusher of all time. The question to me is whether he’ll get past Donald and to $32 million per year, which would make him the highest-paid defensive player of all time.

Remember, T.J. Watt got $28 million per year two years ago from the Steelers, and it’s easy to make the argument that Bosa’s the superior player. And you can add the 24 months of inflation to that total.

That said, this isn’t—and hasn’t been—an easy negotiation for obvious reasons. But the Niners have a good history of taking care of their own and digging out of sideways contract negotiations—with the Deebo Samuel situation a good example of one that got a little ugly and ultimately resulted in zero games missed by the star receiver. So I’d trust GM John Lynch, EVP of football operations Paraag Marathe and vice president of football administration Brian Hampton to get a deal done with Bosa’s agent, Brian Ayrault.

This is, without question, a critical week to get there, and that things have remained quiet and cordial (the Niners fully understand how the Bosas have a history of being very business-minded, as a team would be) gives everyone the best shot to accomplish that.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/28/ch...line-takeaways

There's a Jones thread. There's also a Bronoco's thread. But I'd rather you just make a thread for eating a bag of dicks and live in it.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

From Breer, on Chris Jones:

Spoiler!

The Chiefs and Chris Jones have an under-the-radar deadline coming tomorrow. Jones’s holdout has now been going for well over a month. And as of Sunday, he’s accrued a whopping $1.8 million in fines. If he doesn’t show by Tuesday, he’ll be putting even more cash in peril.

In Article 20 of the CBA, there’s a rule that sets a deadline for five days before the end of the preseason (which is Tuesday) for a player to report. If he doesn’t, then a team can use a roster exemption to withhold game checks from him even after he reports.

So here’s how it works: At the cutdown, which is 4 p.m. ET Tuesday, the Chiefs will move Jones—if he hasn’t reported—to the reserve/did not report list. If he shows up, say, a week later, then Kansas City would likely apply for a two-game roster exemption during which the Chiefs can carry Jones without using a roster spot. And under this rule, if Jones doesn’t report by Tuesday, the Chiefs can choose not to pay Jones while using that exemption on him (once he’s activated, obviously, they will have to pay him).

That means if Kansas City holds Jones out for two games to prepare him for games, it’d be entitled to keep those two game checks, which would add up to $2.22 million and add to the money Jones is already using on fines. And, sure, Jones would probably ask the Chiefs not to do that in exchange for his reporting, but it’s another leverage point for the team.

Will Jones report Tuesday? The tone of negotiations makes it seem unlikely. The sides have been at a stalemate for weeks, with the Aaron Donald number ($31.7 million average annual value) wreaking havoc on this negotiation—the Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid. So the sizable gap (more than $7 million per year) from one number to another has left Jones and the team at an impasse.

I also don’t think whatever Nick Bosa gets in San Francisco is going to change the stance of either player or team in this case—if anyone thinks that’s the shoe that has to drop.

Bosa is going to be the highest-paid edge rusher of all time. The question to me is whether he’ll get past Donald and to $32 million per year, which would make him the highest-paid defensive player of all time.

Remember, T.J. Watt got $28 million per year two years ago from the Steelers, and it’s easy to make the argument that Bosa’s the superior player. And you can add the 24 months of inflation to that total.

That said, this isn’t—and hasn’t been—an easy negotiation for obvious reasons. But the Niners have a good history of taking care of their own and digging out of sideways contract negotiations—with the Deebo Samuel situation a good example of one that got a little ugly and ultimately resulted in zero games missed by the star receiver. So I’d trust GM John Lynch, EVP of football operations Paraag Marathe and vice president of football administration Brian Hampton to get a deal done with Bosa’s agent, Brian Ayrault.

This is, without question, a critical week to get there, and that things have remained quiet and cordial (the Niners fully understand how the Bosas have a history of being very business-minded, as a team would be) gives everyone the best shot to accomplish that.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/28/ch...line-takeaways

Why would this be in the cut down thread? Are you ignorant enough to think Jones won't make the team?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

Why would this be in the cut down thread? Are you ignorant enough to think Jones won't make the team?

He's just being a bundle of sticks troll.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He's just being a bundle of sticks troll.

He won't be able to do it in this thread anymore, anyway.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

From Breer, on Chris Jones:

Spoiler!

The Chiefs and Chris Jones have an under-the-radar deadline coming tomorrow. Jones’s holdout has now been going for well over a month. And as of Sunday, he’s accrued a whopping $1.8 million in fines. If he doesn’t show by Tuesday, he’ll be putting even more cash in peril.

In Article 20 of the CBA, there’s a rule that sets a deadline for five days before the end of the preseason (which is Tuesday) for a player to report. If he doesn’t, then a team can use a roster exemption to withhold game checks from him even after he reports.

So here’s how it works: At the cutdown, which is 4 p.m. ET Tuesday, the Chiefs will move Jones—if he hasn’t reported—to the reserve/did not report list. If he shows up, say, a week later, then Kansas City would likely apply for a two-game roster exemption during which the Chiefs can carry Jones without using a roster spot. And under this rule, if Jones doesn’t report by Tuesday, the Chiefs can choose not to pay Jones while using that exemption on him (once he’s activated, obviously, they will have to pay him).

That means if Kansas City holds Jones out for two games to prepare him for games, it’d be entitled to keep those two game checks, which would add up to $2.22 million and add to the money Jones is already using on fines. And, sure, Jones would probably ask the Chiefs not to do that in exchange for his reporting, but it’s another leverage point for the team.

Will Jones report Tuesday? The tone of negotiations makes it seem unlikely. The sides have been at a stalemate for weeks, with the Aaron Donald number ($31.7 million average annual value) wreaking havoc on this negotiation—the Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid. So the sizable gap (more than $7 million per year) from one number to another has left Jones and the team at an impasse.

I also don’t think whatever Nick Bosa gets in San Francisco is going to change the stance of either player or team in this case—if anyone thinks that’s the shoe that has to drop.

Bosa is going to be the highest-paid edge rusher of all time. The question to me is whether he’ll get past Donald and to $32 million per year, which would make him the highest-paid defensive player of all time.

Remember, T.J. Watt got $28 million per year two years ago from the Steelers, and it’s easy to make the argument that Bosa’s the superior player. And you can add the 24 months of inflation to that total.

That said, this isn’t—and hasn’t been—an easy negotiation for obvious reasons. But the Niners have a good history of taking care of their own and digging out of sideways contract negotiations—with the Deebo Samuel situation a good example of one that got a little ugly and ultimately resulted in zero games missed by the star receiver. So I’d trust GM John Lynch, EVP of football operations Paraag Marathe and vice president of football administration Brian Hampton to get a deal done with Bosa’s agent, Brian Ayrault.

This is, without question, a critical week to get there, and that things have remained quiet and cordial (the Niners fully understand how the Bosas have a history of being very business-minded, as a team would be) gives everyone the best shot to accomplish that.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/28/ch...line-takeaways

Honestly, this makes he hope Jones does NOT report by tomorrow; that extra spot could allow us to keep Smith-Marsette past cutdown day and see what injuries play out prior to Jones' return or trade.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Bowser

He won't be able to do it in this thread anymore, anyway.

oh boom!

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

Different things Chiefs might do in creating their 2023 original 53-man roster.

1. Keep two (2) TEs with their original 53-man roster. Kelce and Gray for sure on roster and cutting Bell, Bushman, Blanton, and Gathings. None of these four have guaranteed money. Either Bell or Bushman could be re-signed after other moves are made.

2. Keep two (2) QBS in Mahomes and Gabbert with the idea that they could sign to Practice Squad either Buechele or Oladokun.

3. Keep eight (8) WRs. People have talked about the traditional 6 with the possibility of maybe going as high as 7 but they might go higher. Chiefs have MVS, Toney, Moore, Rice, James, Watson, Ross, and Ihmir Smith-Marsette has had a very good preseason. Maybe they keep 8 with Toney going on IR for 4 weeks after the 53-man roster is established.

4. Keep three (3) RBs. Pacheco, McKinnon, and Perine with Prince on Practice Squad and CEH traded or cut.

5. Keep 7 (7) CBs. Sneed, McDuffie, Williams, Watson, Jones, Boye-Doe, and Hailassie. If Sneed not ready to return, this move might be necessary.

Never considered the 2 TE's. but I think they could very well run 2 QB's but I'm almost certain Shane gets picked up by someone and I'm okay with that - I like Oladokun better. I'm all about cutting.trading CEH. I think they'll keep 6 CB's because of Sneed - I'd love to see 8 WR's but I'm almost positive Toney starts week 1.

[Jamie]

They might temporarily cut a TE to allow for roster moves, but there's no way we go into the season with less than 3. Especially now that we're not carrying a FB anymore. I'd honestly be a little surprised if we don't keep 4.

[BWillie]

If Jones and his agent are reasonable and intelligent human beings Jones will report tomorrow and/or accept whatever the Chiefs contract extension is. Its probably why his agent is in town this weekend. I believe this is all posturing to get the absolute best extension Chris Jones can get. I believe Jones will sign an extension tomorrow at the final hour or he will report and play. It just makes no sense to do anything else.