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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 12-09-2015, 06:49 PM   #1336
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My comment was not directed at Zobrist himself.. if it weren't for him the Royals are not world champions, I just can't stand the Cubs... **** ass Jim Belushi is a Cubs fan.. that is all you need to know.
Oh I definitely get that. Cubs fans alone are some of the worst educated fans and the truest homers in every sense of the word.
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:17 PM   #1337
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That's a dumb comment if I've ever seen one.
Why? He's not going to be playing on the team I follow due to a decision on his part. It very well could be the best decision he ever makes for himself; I'm just not sure why I should be happy about it.
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:59 PM   #1338
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Why? He's not going to be playing on the team I follow due to a decision on his part. It very well could be the best decision he ever makes for himself; I'm just not sure why I should be happy about it.
Perhaps. But there's no reason to say "**** you" to a guy who played his heart out for the Royals while he was here, helped them win a World Championship, and then decided to take $56,000,000 to go play for a guy who managed him for 9 years.

It's just childish.

If I ran into Ben Zobrist I would shake his hand and thank him for the memories. You'd tell him to **** off because you've decided to be a whiny bitch about him making a decision for himself that has nothing to do with you.

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Old 12-09-2015, 08:16 PM   #1339
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Why? He's not going to be playing on the team I follow due to a decision on his part. It very well could be the best decision he ever makes for himself; I'm just not sure why I should be happy about it.
It's the **** you comment you said. He doesn't owe KC, we owe him. He played he heart out and acquiring him is probably the number 1 reason we won a World Series. I have no ill feelings for him going to Chicago and joining Maddon again. He doesn't get a "**** you" from me, he gets a "thanks a ****ing ton."
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:39 PM   #1340
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Perhaps. But there's no reason to say "**** you" to a guy who played his heart out for the Royals while he was here, helped them win a World Championship, and then decided to take $56,000,000 to go play for a guy who managed him for 9 years.

It's just childish.

If I ran into Ben Zobrist I would shake his hand and thank him for the memories. You'd tell him to **** off because you've decided to be a whiny bitch about him making a decision for himself that has nothing to do with you.

Dude, it's a sports message board. F the Cubs while we're at it.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:49 PM   #1341
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Dude, it's a sports message board. F the Cubs while we're at it.
The guy gave this city everything he had, we won a title, and he named his kid after the team. Royals fans will always have a soft spot for him. No reason to be a jerk about it.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:11 PM   #1342
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:44 PM   #1343
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The guy gave this city everything he had, we won a title, and he named his kid after the team. Royals fans will always have a soft spot for him. No reason to be a jerk about it.
Exactly.

Pitt Gorilla sounds like the kind of fan whose idea of a good time is to go to a game, spend the entire game screaming obscenities at the opposing team, and then try to kick the shit out of anybody in the parking lot wearing the other team's jersey.
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The guy gave this city everything he had, we won a title, and he named his kid after the team. Royals fans will always have a soft spot for him. No reason to be a jerk about it.
I'm a Royals Fan living in the middle of Cubs fandom. Having to hear about Zo as a Cubbie is going to be unbearable.
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I'm a Royals Fan living in the middle of Cubs fandom. Having to hear about Zo as a Cubbie is going to be unbearable.
Show them the World Series championship stuff and tell them to eat shit along with Moises Alou.
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The Astros just gave up a haul to the Phillies for Giles. Wonder what Herrera would have been worth to them.

Probably a little less. Think Giles has 5 years of control left, including 2 pre-arb years.

Herrera is more expensive and has fewer years of control. Not sure they could get Velasquez straight up.
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Hey guys how does it feel to be the World Champs? Guy could get use to that, Am I right?

Anyway, So I hear that Sal is a big Molina fan. Has tried to emulate him. You guys got his backup from us. You think it was to give Sal some first hand info on how Yadi does his day to day business? Plans and calls games?
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Hey guys how does it feel to be the World Champs? Guy could get use to that, Am I right?

Anyway, So I hear that Sal is a big Molina fan. Has tried to emulate him. You guys got his backup from us. You think it was to give Sal some first hand info on how Yadi does his day to day business? Plans and calls games?
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Hey guys how does it feel to be the World Champs? Guy could get use to that, Am I right?

Anyway, So I hear that Sal is a big Molina fan. Has tried to emulate him. You guys got his backup from us. You think it was to give Sal some first hand info on how Yadi does his day to day business? Plans and calls games?
And the "best fans in baseball" wonder why people can't stand them.
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