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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 05-31-2016, 12:07 AM   #1351
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:22 AM   #1352
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Old 05-31-2016, 05:20 AM   #1353
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What's the Royals record with AG out the last two years?
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:06 AM   #1354
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He's gone opposite field several times and seems to have serious patience. Assuming he's a good defender (as advertised) , not sure he's much of a downgrade from what Gordo was giving us. Leave Whitt at 2nd and plug Eibner in left and let's roll.
Eibner hasn't played LF but maybe a handful of times, however. He's primarily been a CFer.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:13 AM   #1355
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The Royals face LHP Smiley today. With Gordon and Moose out (both bat left handed), the Royals might actually do better against a left handed pitcher. Eibner, Merrifield, and Cuthbert all bat right handed. There should only be one left handed batter in the Royals lineup, Hos.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:04 AM   #1356
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Yeah, if he keeps this up and you consider his post season numbers, it would not shock me to see him as a $15-$20 per year guy. I don't care. Pay him.


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I just looked up salaries for 1st baseman. Hos is getting $15 minimum.
Lol. Wishful thinking.

Alex just got an average of 18 mil. over 4 seasons. (In what was considered to be a 'bargain') Alex is over 30 years old. He is not near the offensive player Hoz is.

Hoz will be 27 when he hits FA after 2017 season. He is a Gold Glover, an All-Star (this year) who is finally realizing his immense offensive potential, a World Champ who has shown the ability to be clutch in the post season and exhibits great leadership qualities.

Oh, and Scott Boras is his agent.

Hoz will get a MINIMUM $25 mil a year and probably end up somewhere in the $25-$30 mil a year range. The Yankees (more than likely) or some other big market team will open the bank for him.


Enjoy these last two years of Hoz. It will be his final ones in a Royals uniform.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:11 AM   #1357
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Yep. I'll thank him when he goes and give him a standing ovation when he returns wearing any other laundry.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:18 AM   #1358
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Yep. I'll thank him when he goes and give him a standing ovation when he returns wearing any other laundry.
Agreed. No issues with him getting his money at all.

He will have given us 7 years at the big league level, one title (at least), 2 pennants (at least) and a lifetime of memories.

Just please don't sign with the White Sux (or anyone else in our division for that matter)
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:32 AM   #1359
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What's the Royals record with AG out the last two years?
He sucks now but he's a huge draw. They need him to sell tickets, place was totally empty this past week
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:32 AM   #1360
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Lol. Wishful thinking.

Alex just got an average of 18 mil. over 4 seasons. (In what was considered to be a 'bargain') Alex is over 30 years old. He is not near the offensive player Hoz is.

Hoz will be 27 when he hits FA after 2017 season. He is a Gold Glover, an All-Star (this year) who is finally realizing his immense offensive potential, a World Champ who has shown the ability to be clutch in the post season and exhibits great leadership qualities.

Oh, and Scott Boras is his agent.

Hoz will get a MINIMUM $25 mil a year and probably end up somewhere in the $25-$30 mil a year range. The Yankees (more than likely) or some other big market team will open the bank for him.


Enjoy these last two years of Hoz. It will be his final ones in a Royals uniform.


Yeah, your right. $20 would be a gift at this point.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:32 AM   #1361
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Just please don't sign with the White Sux (or anyone else in our division for that matter)

This I am not worried about. I don't think, unless they blew him away financially, he would leave KC to go to the White Sox,Twins or Indians and I simply don't see the Tigers having over $50 in 1st baseman contracts.
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Lol. Wishful thinking.

Alex just got an average of 18 mil. over 4 seasons. (In what was considered to be a 'bargain') Alex is over 30 years old. He is not near the offensive player Hoz is.

Hoz will be 27 when he hits FA after 2017 season. He is a Gold Glover, an All-Star (this year) who is finally realizing his immense offensive potential, a World Champ who has shown the ability to be clutch in the post season and exhibits great leadership qualities.

Oh, and Scott Boras is his agent.

Hoz will get a MINIMUM $25 mil a year and probably end up somewhere in the $25-$30 mil a year range. The Yankees (more than likely) or some other big market team will open the bank for him.


Enjoy these last two years of Hoz. It will be his final ones in a Royals uniform.

Until last year, Gordon had actually been a far superior offensive player as Hosmer. This is the first year Hosmer has come close to putting up something similar to Gordon's career year in 2011. (Gordon's offensive performance tends to be underrated here sometimes, just sticking up for it).

That aside, Hosmer IS going to get more than $15 million a year.

The price point is going to start at $20 million/year and only go up from there. Now that he's finally reached his full potential - hitting for power as well as average and producing like a true middle-of-the-lineup bat - it likely goes higher.

Brandon Belt has been a better player overall than Hosmer leading up to this year and just signed an extension - that looks like a bargain now at $13 million annually. Hosmer will be looking for more than that.

7 years, $150 million is the floor for Hos's contract. I expect it will land around 7/180 when all is said and done.

While it would be awesome for KC to do that, it also would run the risk of turning into a Joe Mauer-like stone around the team's neck.

I think he does see some appeal in being a lifelong Royal and the panache that comes with that nationally and locally/for life after baseball, which will give them a chance, if not a great one.

I don't see $30 million/year unless Hosmer goes .300/35 this year and next, but that IS a possibility.

Upside of that is that if he becomes that hitter, I think there's a good shot the Royals win another WS this year or next.


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One big reason we brought AG back was to backfill Hosmer at 1B in years 3&4 of his deal. Can't be striking out 30% of the time If he wants to play a premium offensive position tho
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:49 AM   #1365
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He sucks now but he's a huge draw. They need him to sell tickets, place was totally empty this past week
If they signed him to sell tickets the revenue they would need to offset $15 million annually is huge. Revenue does not equal profit, but every payroll dollar spent is one dollar off the bottom line. Don't see the ROI, but I could be wrong. We need him to produce, and at a decent rate these next few years. Hoping this time off has him watching tape and figuring out what caused the gaping hole in his swing. Reminds me of his early career struggles, and that's worrisome for an aging veteran.
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