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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11:10 PM

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-20-2012, 07:03 PM

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**BossChief** · 07-20-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm seeing a bunch of options that don't fit Bowe's role or who are old and could fall off a cliff at any moment.

The notion that anyone advocating the absolute necessity of re-signing Bowe is a homer is misguided.

What it breaks down to is this:

A) Bowe
B) Mario Manninham (or comparable player) + 1st round pick + significant amount of cap space that can be used elsewhere.

There is no question that b is the better option

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-20-2012, 07:07 PM

I'd rather have Bowe

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2012, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

What it breaks down to is this:

A) Bowe
B) Mario Manninham (or comparable player) + 1st round pick + significant amount of cap space that can be used elsewhere.

There is no question that b is the better option

Bull. Shit.

I don't give a **** about the mythical cap, and a single pick isn't enough compensation for Bowe.

**RealSNR** · 07-20-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bull. Shit.

I don't give a **** about the mythical cap, and a single pick isn't enough compensation for Bowe.

Go **** your mother, homer

**RealSNR** · 07-20-2012, 07:13 PM

Somebody should have told the Lions about that REALLY sweet deal they could have scored for Calvin Johnson. Imagine Vincent Jackson and Titus Young in that offense with extra draft picks and some extra cap room!

**BossChief** · 07-20-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bull. Shit.

I don't give a **** about the mythical cap, and a single pick isn't enough compensation for Bowe.

I was low balling the pick.

To me, I'd move Bowe for a first and a conditional pick and sign a replacement.

Then, you know what I'd do with my two first round picks?

jspchief · 07-20-2012, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

What it breaks down to is this:

A) Bowe
B) Mario Manninham (or comparable player) + 1st round pick + significant amount of cap space that can be used elsewhere.

There is no question that b is the better option

Wait. Why is some other team willing to give up a first and meet Bowe's contract demands?

**SAUTO** · 07-20-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Go **** your mother, homer

Go **** your grandmother, draftabulator
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**RealSNR** · 07-20-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Go **** your grandmother, draftabulator
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Go **** your great-grandmother, homerbulator

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

B) Mario Manninham (or comparable player) + 1st round pick + significant amount of cap space that can be used elsewhere.

Where?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Winston, Baldwin, Breaston, Routt, Cassel (and soon, Poe) are locked up. Where will this "significant" cap space be spent? If it wasn't spent on Carr or Bowe, where will it go? We're talking double digit cap space this year and in 2013.

Apparently, the Chiefs are all well and good paying Bowe the $9 million+ Franchise tag. They just don't want to pony up a double digit signing bonus. Which leads us back to Clark Hunt's wallet.

**BossChief** · 07-20-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

Wait. Why is some other team willing to give up a first and meet Bowe's contract demands?

Because teams like Miami, Titans, Rams and others need someone for their guys to throw to.

Their picks will be premium picks, too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Because teams like Miami, Titans, Rams and others need someone for their guys to throw to.

Their picks will be premium picks, too.

I just don't buy it. If those teams weren't willing to trade for Bowe in 2012, I have a hard time believing they'll be willing in 2013.

I think the Chiefs could snag a late two and possibly an additional 5th or 6th, but not much more. Teams just aren't giving up high picks for veteran receivers.

Titty Meat · 07-20-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Where?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Winston, Baldwin, Breaston, Routt, Cassel (and soon, Poe) are locked up. Where will this "significant" cap space be spent? If it wasn't spent on Carr or Bowe, where will it go? We're talking double digit cap space this year and in 2013.

Apparently, the Chiefs are all well and good paying Bowe the $9 million+ Franchise tag. They just don't want to pony up a double digit signing bonus. Which leads us back to Clark Hunt's wallet.

**** you mother ****er clark hunt isnt cheap you stupid mother ****er

**BossChief** · 07-20-2012, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Where?

Charles, Hali, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Winston, Baldwin, Breaston, Routt, Cassel (and soon, Poe) are locked up. Where will this "significant" cap space be spent? If it wasn't spent on Carr or Bowe, where will it go? We're talking double digit cap space this year and in 2013.

Apparently, the Chiefs are all well and good paying Bowe the $9 million+ Franchise tag. They just don't want to pony up a double digit signing bonus. Which leads us back to Clark Hunt's wallet.

These are just the guys that come to mind...lots of them make next to nothing right now and will need a significant new contract in the next 2 or 3 years.

Albert
Dorsey
Houston

Asamoah
Bailey
Moeaki
Arenas

Plus, Ricky Stanzi is gonna need a 100 million dollar deal in two years!!!

07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4641115	How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this. I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league. What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years. I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's. Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe. Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49 Roddy White - 6422/42 Reggie Wayne - 6234/36 Wes Welker - 6105/31 Calvin Johnson - 5872/49 Andre Johnson - 5703/35 Greg Jennings - 5539/46 Steve Smith - 5353/29 Marques Colston - 5202/40 Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36 Personally, I think that's impressive on its own. Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons. Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems. It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game. Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play. After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play. I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game. Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league. Dude deserved elite money. Or, tl;dr - **** him. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 07-17-2012 at 11:10 PM..
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