***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Florida sheriff's office obtains arrest warrant for pastor of Tampa church that held large Sunday services

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...eriffs-office/



This kind of stuff needs to be happening more often.

as much as I disagree with what he did, this is going to be a very tricky issue in court with wide ramifications

[wazu]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Covidly.com

Heh, feel stupid for not just trying that. Google must hate them for some reason. This site is pretty cool, though.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

as much as I disagree with what he did, this is going to be a very tricky issue in court with wide ramifications

Put the court dates off for say 6 months. By then this will all be over with and he can get a warning with no fine etc. Yet it has set a precedent to the public that they will take more serious.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tampa Bay pastor arrested, accused of violating social distancing guidelines amid coronavirus pandemic

TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) – A Tampa Bay area pastor has been arrested following two large services at his church over the weekend.

Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister says he has made the decision Sunday night to seek an arrest warrant against the pastor of River at Tampa Bay Church for violating social distancing guidelines amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Sheriff Chronister says Howard-Browne “repeatedly” violated social distancing orders from the president, CDC and local authorities.

“His reckless disregard for human life put hundreds of people in his congregation at risk and thousands of residents who may interact with them this week in danger,” the sheriff said.

The sheriff confirmed in a tweet Monday afternoon that Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne had been arrested.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborou...ng-guidelines/

Look 4 posts below yours.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tampa Bay pastor arrested, accused of violating social distancing guidelines amid coronavirus pandemic

TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) – A Tampa Bay area pastor has been arrested following two large services at his church over the weekend.

Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister says he has made the decision Sunday night to seek an arrest warrant against the pastor of River at Tampa Bay Church for violating social distancing guidelines amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The sheriff confirmed in a tweet Monday afternoon that Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne had been arrested.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborou...ng-guidelines/

I'll say this and no more because it borders on DC material.

The Church is not a building or the pastor. The Church is the people who gather to worship...wherever that may be.

This guy is an idiot and irresponsible for asking his congregation to do this.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I'll say this and no more because it borders on DC material.

The Church is not a building or the pastor. The Church is the people who gather to worship...wherever that may be.

This guy is an idiot and irresponsible for asking his congregation to do this.

how and why is this DC material?

What’s been bordering on DC material? Was that some warning to me? I’ve not posted anything even slightly DC related in hundreds of pages.

I’m not whining to be whining. Wherever the bar and acceptable posts is set, I’ll follow those rules, just unclear now what the rules are.

There is a local bar in Tampa that opened up and served the public. They are thinking of going after the owner of the bar. Posting that story be a “DC” post?

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

as much as I disagree with what he did, this is going to be a very tricky issue in court with wide ramifications

It's not tricky at all. He defied an order.

Open and shut case.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I'll say this and no more because it borders on DC material.

The Church is not a building or the pastor. The Church is the people who gather to worship...wherever that may be.

This guy is an idiot and irresponsible for asking his congregation to do this.

Really no way to respond to this that ISN'T DC material.

So I'll just say I guess that whole "Bill of Rights" was mostly a set of guidelines afterall.

We appear to have learned nothing from The Patriot Act. It's remarkable what people will surrender when they're scared.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

how and why is this DC material?

What’s been bordering on DC material? Was that some warning to me? I’ve not posted anything even slightly DC related in hundreds of pages.

I’m not whining to be whining. Wherever the bar and acceptable posts is set, I’ll follow those rules, just unclear now what the rules are.

There is a local bar in Tampa that opened up and served the public. They are thinking of going after the owner of the bar. Posting that story be a “DC” post?

Simmer down big guy.

I was saying that what I was posting was borderline DC because of the religion stuff. Nothing wrong with what you posted.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Covidly.com

Cool site. Thanks....

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

how and why is this DC material?

What’s been bordering on DC material? Was that some warning to me? I’ve not posted anything even slightly DC related in hundreds of pages.

I’m not whining to be whining. Wherever the bar and acceptable posts is set, I’ll follow those rules, just unclear now what the rules are.

There is a local bar in Tampa that opened up and served the public. They are thinking of going after the owner of the bar. Posting that story be a “DC” post?

I think he was saying that he wouldn't go too far with his own post because it was bordering on DC material. I don't think he was saying that posting this news was DC material.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Simmer down big guy.

I was saying that what I was posting was borderline DC because of the religion stuff. Nothing wrong with what you posted.

Nailed it. *pats self on back*

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Simmer down big guy.

I was saying that what I was posting was borderline DC because of the religion stuff. Nothing wrong with what you posted.

sorry man, I was warned early on about borderline posts by Daface. Out of respect to him and the rules we all abide by I’ve changed what I posted and replied too. Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated.

I agree with your church statement. That’s a total different thing to make the pastor an “Example” or scare people into compliance. Especially when they had a bar owner to go after for their “example”.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

It's not tricky at all. He defied an order.

Open and shut case.

Tech a violation of 1st amendment

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Tech a violation of 1st amendment

Accccckkkkuuuuuallllyyyy, its not.