***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’m hoping so. We’re gonna find out soon enough about how this thing fares in heat.

Bring on the triple digits - Said no one ever
Bring on the triple digits - Says everyone now

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’m hoping so. We’re gonna find out soon enough about how this thing fares in heat.

It’s been near 90 degrees with humidity almost every day the past two weeks here and that hasn’t had much impact.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Trump mentioned during his daily COVID-19 briefing today that the federal government may recommend that everyone wear a mask in public.

Apparently this is part of a roadmap put out by the former FDA Commissioner, Scott Gottlieb.

Could this become the next mandate/requirement, similar to the shelter at home orders... everyone has to wear a mask/cover their face when out in public?

So we don't have enough masks for the health care workers and the public may have to wear them??.. Doesn't make sense...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

I see more and more out here. Looks like a common thing already. Might have to wear one so I don't get the skunk eye anymore.

I had to go to Home Depot again today (plumbing!) and I'd say 75% of the people in line and in the store had on masks and probably 50% had on gloves.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Kman34

So we don't have enough masks for the health care workers and the public may have to wear them??.. Doesn't make sense...

That was one of the reasons why health experts were initially recommending the general public to not wear masks (also masks had limited effectiveness with stopping the 2003 SARS coronavirus).

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It’s been near 90 degrees with humidity almost every day the past two weeks here and that hasn’t had much impact.

Welp, that's why I amended my will. When I told my dog, she was like this:

[Hammock Parties]

****. 19,988/565.

[cdcox]

Italy is starting to roll over. USA is still in exponential growth phase. Hopefully the effects of social distancing kick in soon. See the video below if you wonder what this is.

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

THE Covid video you should watch. Really well done.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Italy is starting to roll over. USA is still in exponential growth phase. Hopefully the effects of social distancing kick in soon. See the video below if you wonder what this is.

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If that data is based on new cases it is useless. Our increase in new cases could be entirely a function of increased testing. Right now the only stat that I trust is deaths. I highly doubt there are many Covid deaths that are going unreported.

Does anyone have deaths broken out by nation and charted on a logarithmic scale?

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

If that data is based on new cases it is useless. Our increase in new cases could be entirely a function of increased testing. Right now the only stat that I trust is deaths. I highly doubt there are many Covid deaths that are going unreported.

Does anyone have deaths broken out by nation and charted on a logarithmic scale?

I don't even trust deaths because if someone is dying from heart disease, for example, he will count as a COVID death if he test positive regardless if he was showing symptoms.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

If that data is based on new cases it is useless. Our increase in new cases could be entirely a function of increased testing. Right now the only stat that I trust is deaths. I highly doubt there are many Covid deaths that are going unreported.

Does anyone have deaths broken out by nation and charted on a logarithmic scale?

Last I saw the number of tests have been right around 100k a day +/- for a while now.

We'll be on this path for a bit because we have a higher population and unlike Italy we still have a sizeable population that doesnt ****ing care.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

I don't even trust deaths because if someone is dying from heart disease, for example, he will count as a COVID death if he test positive regardless if he was showing symptoms.

You dont think they can determine if someone died from heart failure or lung?

[srvy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Golf courses open in Kansas or Missouri?

Anywhere.

Last I heard Swope Memorial and Shoal Creek in Missouri are. You have to reserve and pay online clubhouse and driving range closed no carts walk only. Shoal Creek is a nice public course and Swope is short tight and hilly.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That was one of the reasons why health experts were initially recommending the general public to not wear masks (also masks had limited effectiveness with stopping the 2003 SARS coronavirus).

Masks were extremely effective for SARS with odds ratios of 0.27 and a p value of less than 0.0001.

They were the single most effective thing you could do.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If you're so broke you have to go to GreatClips then you're better off going direct to the local cosmetology school and having students just buzz your hair.

You sound like a woman all fussy about your hair.