***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Or the numbers are rising because they are testing more.

Here is what I found.....

The #s of confirmed cases are vastly under reported here in Brasil. The Minister of Health of the State of Sao Paulo declared they will only report "Severe" cases and the rest won't be in the count. And that is in just one state, the most populated and the most cases.

I will give you an idea of how much of an impact it "could" have here. In Sao Paulo, one hospital had 348 cases just among is doctors, nurses and staff. That is since Feb 25, when literally nothing was being done to control the outbreak. Imagine how many people they came into contact with unknowingly.

I could go on about 2250 respatory deaths in another state in 1 month when the normal is 250 for a month. None were reported as Corona. (Feb-Mid March)

There is no way there are 4000-5000 cases in Brasil. The Govt lies.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by FAX

I would just like to add this ...

Considering those fingernails of hers ... even if Cardi B. offered to stroke my testicles, I'd hesitate to agree.

FAX

I can post a candid pic of Cardi from a Miami/South Beach mall a couple months ago.

She looked, uh, pretty rough.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Just being devil's advocate here, he's a 50% career shooter which is a product of him being a SG that couldn't shoot threes very well. He wasn't horrible at it, but Lebron James is a better shooter than he was. If you don't shoot that many threes, your FG% will always be higher.

Jordan was perfectly suited for THAT NBA. He would of course be one of the best or best players in the NBA now, but his style may not be as effective nowadays just because NBA analytics people have determined the most effective ways to score.

Lebron is also a career 50% shooter from the field, 73% from the charity stripe and 34% from 3, compared to Jordan's 83% on FT's and 33% from 3. So I don't know that a see a lot there to argue Lebron is a better shooter than Jordan. Bron barely better from 3, Jordan much better from FT line. If anything, I would think that suggests Jordan is the better shooter, but at worst they are nearly equals.

Except in championships, where Jordan is 6 for 6 and never choked in epic fashion like Lebron did against the Mavs.

But that's a different discussion and I'll quit derailing the thread.

[Mecca]

Also I'm going to say this so don't get butthurt. Marcellus is like the Undertaker of this thread, just no sell no sell.

While I think many reports are completely overblown that it's total doom it's kind of insane to be the other way too.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by wazu

Makes me wonder what's up with those malaria drugs and the miracle turnarounds they supposedly deliver.

The people who are dying I would suppose are those who were not treated with the medication soon enough because we needed "Trials"

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Also I'm going to say this so don't get butthurt. Marcellus is like the Undertaker of this thread, just no sell no sell.

While I think many reports are completely overblown that it's total doom it's kind of insane to be the other way too.

Which reports are “overblown”?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

The people who are dying I would suppose are those who were not treated with the medication soon enough because we needed "Trials"

It is still being used in compassionate care situations I would assume , maybe it doesn’t always work.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It is still being used in compassionate care situations I would assume , maybe it doesn’t always work.

im sure it doesn't but if it works in even 50% of people its worth the masses using it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

im sure it doesn't but if it works in even 50% of people its worth the masses using it.

We Just don’t know either way , but you made it sound that they were not trying it just because .

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Which reports are “overblown”?

I'm saying there seems to be 2 sides of this story 1 side thinks its the worst thing ever and millions will die the other thinks it's going to be over in 5 minutes, the truth is in the middle of this.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

If that data is based on new cases it is useless. Our increase in new cases could be entirely a function of increased testing. Right now the only stat that I trust is deaths. I highly doubt there are many Covid deaths that are going unreported.

Does anyone have deaths broken out by nation and charted on a logarithmic scale?

This guy gets it...

Just stay inside and avoid all contact with people, then the virus can't get you..

[GloryDayz]

On a different note, have any CPers reported having contracted COVID-19?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Which reports are “overblown”?

I think the Governor Newsom's estimate of California infections was just a tad off.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

This guy gets it...

Just stay inside and avoid all contact with people, then the China virus can't get you..

This is not the way.

[Mecca]

People in India are drinking cow piss cause they think it will protect them.