***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

What a great plan when anywhere from 25-50% of carriers are symptom free

I don’t disagree — but that seems to be the plan. There’s no way at present to test everyone so only sick people are getting tested.

I was trying to make the same point you did. Sarcasm just doesn’t work so well at the moment.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yeah and they were talking mid May about a week ago. Nobody has any ****ing clue.

"They only answer 'More! More! More!'...."

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

I wonder how they determine that Missouri is 51 days out from peak resource usage.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I don’t disagree — but that seems to be the plan. There’s no way at present to test everyone so only sick people are getting tested.

I was trying to make the same point you did. Sarcasm just doesn’t work so well at the moment.

Hey ringleader... You seem to like messing with numbers. Care to take a look at my question?

[Pants]

China is a such a communist shit hole. The deeper we get into the COVID-19 mess, the more my disdain for China grows.

Is this what it's like to be racist?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"They only answer 'More! More! More!'...."

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pants

China is a such a communist shit hole. The deeper we get into the COVID-19 mess, the more my disdain for China grows.

Is this what it's like to be racist?

Is your disdain for China based on the fact that they are Asian?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by TLO

https://covid19.healthdata.org/

Click on Missouri.

Talked to the M&P last night and they said it was business as usual in the Northland with packed stores and parking lots. Not sure why the Gov of Missouri is waiting to make shelter in place mandatory but it will happen.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Great video on why this is much worse than the flu

https://youtu.be/FVIGhz3uwuQ

People it is worth a look.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is your disdain for China based on the fact that they are Asian?

Why are 97.4% of your posts questions?

Stop it. Bad donger. Bad. (slaps hand)

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

I wonder how they determine that Missouri is 51 days out from peak resource usage.

They can do the math better than I can

But when a county has its first a week ago, second two days ago, third today with 5 more suspected i can see it

[RINGLEADER]

Also, last night I had to get out of the house and went for a drive. Was weird seeing Rodeo Drive stores boarded up and was sort of surprised there was anyone still out and about but there were groups congregating throughout W Hollywood. The thing that was most noticeable? I was out for about an hour and had to pull over for 7 ambulances with lights on.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is your disdain for China based on the fact that they are Asian?

I get it that nationality =/= race. However, feeling a certain way about an entire country is probably somewhat similar, in principle, to feeling a certain a way about an entire race.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pants

China is a such a communist shit hole. The deeper we get into the COVID-19 mess, the more my disdain for China grows.

Is this what it's like to be racist?

Nah. Easy disconnect.

The Chinese people are every bit as much a victim as the rest of the world. Well...I mean the bat-eating thing and my general disdain for the concept of wet markets is a little racist, but I can at least just call that 'culturally insensitive' and move along. I don't mind that they're Chinese - I just think that shit is gross.

But really, the Chinese people aren't a problem. The ****ing Chinese government has some 'splaining to do though.

That's not racism - that's just good ol' fashion patriotism. You can hate a government without hating its people - totally kosher.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Also, last night I had to get out of the house and went for a drive. Was weird seeing Rodeo Drive stores boarded up and was sort of surprised there was anyone still out and about but there were groups congregating throughout W Hollywood. The thing that was most noticeable? I was out for about an hour and counted 7 ambulances with lights on.

They took live pd and live rescue off the air a couple weeks ago too

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why are 97.4% of your posts questions?

Stop it. Bad donger. Bad. (slaps hand)

I picture him looking at you and yelling..........the donger will speak now!