Chiefs Gronk or Kelce

Chiefer8989 · 10-18-2019, 03:41 PM

Two great TE's. When both were at their best, who was better? Again, this isn't about who you would rather have long term. Or necessarily about better career. Someone can have a better career yet not necessarily be better (For example Brady has had a better career than Montana. But Joe was better).

**DaFace** · 10-18-2019, 03:43 PM

When healthy, Gronk was about as good as they get. Kelce is pretty damn close, though, and he doesn't get injured near as often.

carcosa · 10-18-2019, 03:44 PM

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lcarus · 10-18-2019, 03:44 PM

At their absolute best I'd take Kelce. At their absolute worst I'd take Kelce.

tyecopeland · 10-18-2019, 03:45 PM

Gronk was a better blocker

Dunerdr · 10-18-2019, 03:46 PM

Gronks career is atleast partially due to Tom Brady throwing dimes. Kelce peaked and lead the league in YAC with smith throwing down and behind him..

KCUnited · 10-18-2019, 03:49 PM

**** Gronk Forever

Chiefer8989 · 10-18-2019, 03:53 PM

Dare I ask if Kelce is on the level of Tony Gonzalez in his prime? I'm sure I'll get hell for even asking.

Molitoth · 10-18-2019, 03:54 PM

I like Gronk, but I'd take Kelce.

Gronk was injury prone.

crispystl · 10-18-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefer8989

Dare I ask if Kelce is on the level of Tony Gonzalez in his prime? I'm sure I'll get hell for even asking.

Yeah he’s in the same league for sure.
Tony had better hands, but Kelce is harder to cover and gets more YAC.

**notorious** · 10-18-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

**** Gronk Forever

Nice!

ClevelandBronco · 10-18-2019, 03:57 PM

As Jeopardy contestants, I'd take the empty lecturn.

Chiefer8989 · 10-18-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

I like Gronk, but I'd take Kelce.

Gronk was injury prone.

But that's not the question. At their absolute peak who was better? Who would most NFL fans take for one do or die game?

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-18-2019, 04:00 PM

Gronk, and I hate saying that but he had more reliable hands, didn't have that mental lapse and drop a routine catch like Travis does.

Rob was a better blocker too

Amnorix · 10-18-2019, 04:03 PM

I think as receivers they're pretty darn close to equal.

But Kelce isn't anywhere near the blocker Gronk was. He was freaking outstanding. Great at it, and very willing to do it. Wham blocks inside against 300+ lb. DTs? Many times. Singled up against very good pass rushing DEs or LBs? Yep, could do that too.

That stuff doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Nor does the impact it has on your gameplan and offensive strategy. With Gronk being an elite receiver or blocker, if he was at the natural TE position, instead of flexed out, defenses had NO IDEA from that alone whether it was a pass or run. He could kill you either way. That's damn rare for a TE.

If they'd both been WRs, then you could have the debate. Since they're TEs, though, it's Gronk.

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Chiefer8989 Bleeding Chiefs Red Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Toronto.Born in Jasper,MO Casino cash: $10000400	Gronk or Kelce Two great TE's. When both were at their best, who was better? Again, this isn't about who you would rather have long term. Or necessarily about better career. Someone can have a better career yet not necessarily be better (For example Brady has had a better career than Montana. But Joe was better).
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $1879928	At their absolute best I'd take Kelce. At their absolute worst I'd take Kelce.
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Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2449677	Gronks career is atleast partially due to Tom Brady throwing dimes. Kelce peaked and lead the league in YAC with smith throwing down and behind him.. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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Chiefer8989 Bleeding Chiefs Red Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Toronto.Born in Jasper,MO Casino cash: $10000400	Dare I ask if Kelce is on the level of Tony Gonzalez in his prime? I'm sure I'll get hell for even asking.
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2984969	I like Gronk, but I'd take Kelce. Gronk was injury prone.
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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	I think as receivers they're pretty darn close to equal. But Kelce isn't anywhere near the blocker Gronk was. He was freaking outstanding. Great at it, and very willing to do it. Wham blocks inside against 300+ lb. DTs? Many times. Singled up against very good pass rushing DEs or LBs? Yep, could do that too. That stuff doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Nor does the impact it has on your gameplan and offensive strategy. With Gronk being an elite receiver or blocker, if he was at the natural TE position, instead of flexed out, defenses had NO IDEA from that alone whether it was a pass or run. He could kill you either way. That's damn rare for a TE. If they'd both been WRs, then you could have the debate. Since they're TEs, though, it's Gronk. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington Last edited by Amnorix; 10-18-2019 at 04:09 PM..
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