ONE HILLUVA STORY - HOW TYREEK IS NOT ONLY INNOCENT – HE IS A VICTIM

[Hammock Parties]

https://www.scribd.com/document/4142...TXOVfx-b5jwkNg

This is a long ass article and definitely worth your time.

7.14.19 update:

Without further delay - we present some additional research. This article isn't about suspensions. This is now 100% about daylighting wrongs and helping someone caught in a tangled web of manipulation and pain. https://t.co/bQNC8Cyju4

— Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) July 14, 2019

This morning at 6am PST, we received images labeled States Evidence & Court Transcripts from Tyreek's March 9, 2015 Probable Cause hearing. You can read about how Tyreek asked Crystal to leave his place on 12/11/14 before stuff went down & more .... https://t.co/jz0Hqj052i

— Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) July 16, 2019

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

My early thoughts on this were shaped by the initial story presented by the mom to law enforcement.

This seems false. Your thoughts, like others, were shaped well before this whole thing happened and as soon as something came out that could vindicate your disdain for him being on the team you believed it almost without question and wanted him cut basically immediately. Way too many people did the same thing.

[FAX]

It seems to me that a truly virtuous person would "own up" to the fact when he or she jumps the gun and decides that presumption of innocence doesn't apply when you've already built the scaffold and bought the rope.

FAX

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’ve said for several weeks now that I no longer believe he’ll be charged and that he shouldn’t be.

My early thoughts on this were shaped by the initial story presented by the mom to law enforcement. She backed off that quickly. It has become a quagmire as time has gone all.

All I’m convinced of now is that someone went far too far with hitting a three year old boy with a belt. As long as that child is being protected moving forward, I’m good with that outcome.

"by the mom" = Crystal or Crystal's mom?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by FAX

Wait just a ding-dong desperate demi-second there ...



Am I thinking of another poster? Because I have this very specific memory of you stating on this board that you had "inside information" based on your contacts within the police department. That, combined with your legal expertise, was the basis for your belief that Tyreek was guilty of breaking Damien's arm, punching him in the chest, and whipping him with a belt hard enough to warrant arrest.



Do I have you confused with someone else? If so, I apologize in advance. If not, WTF?



FAX

Find a post where I said he broke the arm. If it exists, it’s from the first few hours of that Friday afternoon when this broke.

I heard about this before the story broke. From Day 1, what was shared with me was the story with the broken arm checked out but there were injuries consistent with beating with a belt that were far overboard what is acceptable.

I said repeatedly and consistently it wasn’t about the broken arm.

I know a lot of people who work in law enforcement in Overland Park. Police, prosecutors, defense attorneys. Etc. I shared what I could from talking to a few people. I don’t regret that and would do it again.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by FAX

It seems to me that a truly virtuous person would "own up" to the fact when he or she jumps the gun and decides that presumption of innocence doesn't apply when you've already built the scaffold and bought the rope.



FAX

I did that, in about an 800-word post that was in a thread that apparently has been deleted.

Clif notes were that what I shared early was based on what Espinal told police initially, which she backed off of quickly, and that the situation was too obfuscated to know who went too far and hurt the kid.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

as Salt N Pepa would say :

It's those things that make ya go "hmmmm".

That was C+C Music factory, but whatever....

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

That was C+C Music factory, but whatever....

"Whatever" is right.

Same producers, same ****ing band, different singers.

[FringeNC]

I thought the whole thing seemed a bit fishy from the get-go. Now that so much time has passed, and there is no smoking gun against Hill, it's obvious that the tide of public opinion has turned.

I find it very interesting that the Star would write all these articles along the lines that "IF Tyreek Hill is guilty...(and wink-wink, nod-nod, we have good sources saying he is)..then he needs to be banned from the league". All of that on rumor. But barely a peep out of them in response to Hill's release of the text messages. Think about all the articles they could have written in response to that and other rumors. Just such a great example of agenda journalism. They are simply looking for a morsel, any morsel that will allow them to virtue signal and lecture us on our moral shortcomings. The grand narrative was to be Clark Hunt creates an atmosphere in which domestic violence is trivialized and we fans are guilty too because...just because.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Now that so much time has passed, and there is no smoking gun against, it's obvious that the tide of public opinion has turned.

Actually, this is the problem: it hasn't.

I will say that most of the fan base has changed their tune now.

But fans of other teams? Not at all. Basically no one in the media is exonerating Tyreek. No retractions, no apologies, no one with the balls to due some real virtue signaling by being publicly humbled.

It's going to be left up to the Chiefs to restore the damage that's been done. And the idiots who want to run up a hill as a show of support.

[Chiefshrink]

Hill and Trump have so much in common it is scary.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

But fans of other teams? Not at all. Basically no one in the media is exonerating Tyreek. No retractions, no apologies, no one with the balls to due some real virtue signaling by being publicly humbled.

It's going to be left up to the Chiefs to restore the damage that's been done.

Maybe, maybe not. I think once Goodell comes out and officially clears TH of any wrongdoing other than the conduct policy(secret recording) AND IF and I know it is a BIG IF some big respected national sports media outlet reports "what really happened" (what I call 'scorned extortion') I think you might see some of the tide turn nationally to some degree.

Not all national media(because most are 'progressive SJWs), because I get your point. This was a witch hunt from the words "breakup, you ain't gettin none of my big contract because you are a crazy woman"(back in March). And from that point, Crystal and her family were out to sabotage his career and damn near did it.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

If KCTV5 knew that the recording had another 5-6 minutes to it, I really don’t understand why they would play it to begin with. That is just too much open space to possibly flip everything on its head.

The local media ****ED this one up.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I did that, in about an 800-word post that was in a thread that apparently has been deleted.

Clif notes were that what I shared early was based on what Espinal told police initially, which she backed off of quickly, and that the situation was too obfuscated to know who went too far and hurt the kid.

Perhaps for those of us who are not Tyreek Hill or Damien or Baby Mama or anyone else directly associated with this absurd imbroglio, it can all be chalked up as a learning opportunity. I'm good with that. Mainly because I'm uncomfortable judging someone I don't personally know or with whom I have no shared experience.

On the other hand, it appears that a lot of people (including many in the press and on this board and throughout social media) revealed their true selves here. It is a profoundly sad thing to realize that so many otherwise normal humans were so ready to convict Tyreek based on absolutely zero evidence. They used this situation as a frenzied opportunity to promote and highlight their own supposed morality and righteousness and they did it in the face of the known facts. To my mind, there is nothing moral or righteous about damning another person outright in order to make oneself feel better and look better to others.

It makes one wonder how much social bias actually exists in the world. Using this fiasco as a template, I'd say the answer is far too much.

Still, the reality is that it's their credibility. I suppose they can do what they want with it.

FAX

[-King-]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If KCTV5 knew that the recording had another 5-6 minutes to it, I really don’t understand why they would play it to begin with. That is just too much open space to possibly flip everything on its head.

The local media ****ED this one up.

I'd really like to hear the whole tape or at least what happened after the "scared of me too bitch" part.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by FAX

Perhaps for those of us who are not Tyreek Hill or Damien or Baby Mama or anyone else directly associated with this absurd imbroglio, it can all be chalked up as a learning opportunity. I'm good with that. Mainly because I'm uncomfortable judging someone I don't personally know or with whom I have no shared experience.

On the other hand, it appears that a lot of people (including many in the press and on this board and throughout social media) revealed their true selves here. It is a profoundly sad thing to realize that so many otherwise normal humans were so ready to convict Tyreek based on absolutely zero evidence. They used this situation as a frenzied opportunity to promote and highlight their own supposed morality and righteousness and they did it in the face of the known facts. To my mind, there is nothing moral or righteous about damning another person outright in order to make oneself feel better and look better to others.

It makes one wonder how much social bias actually exists in the world. Using this fiasco as a template, I'd say the answer is far too much.

Still, the reality is that it's their credibility. I suppose they can do what they want with it.

FAX

The same people who are refusing to judge Tyreek are the same people who are judging and calling Christal all types of names despite knowing next to nothing about the case or her. This whole thing is so ****ed up, it's crazy.