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Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:16 PM   #2506
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As DJ pointed out though, McKinnon could do that and gain alot more yards. He could probably house a couple as well.
I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:25 PM   #2507
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I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.
I would have like to see him get some touches, I think he could be damn productive in this offense
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:33 PM   #2508
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:04 PM   #2509
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In watching the game again, I thought CEH had a pretty decent 2nd half, and I think some of those runs did bring the safeties up several steps.

Overall….probably just OK, and not what you want from a 1st round pick, but it’s opening day, so willing to get deeper into the season before getting too critical.
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I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.
Yeah I thought he would get some touches especially in the passing game out of the backfield. I don't remember him playing much but could be wrong.
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Yeah I thought he would get some touches especially in the passing game out of the backfield. I don't remember him playing much but could be wrong.
I remember seeing him once for sure when he motioned out wide. Theyre probably trying to establish Clyde and get his confidence and continuity in the offense. But man some of that first half was brutal. He did look a little better in the second.
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Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.
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Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.
It's more about the fear that the good defenses could double them both and force Mahomes to throw to himself, since no one else can win 1v1 consistently.

And honestly, the only team that i could see actually pulling that off is the Patriots.
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Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.
I dont think its a problem, i think most bitches are that CEH is not optimizing his opportunities.
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Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.
It would be nice to have a third option already operating smoothly before Hill or Kelce happened to miss some time.

And the smoother and quicker the offense works, it probably means fewer hits on Mahomes.
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Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.
I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.
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I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.
The obvious issue, though, is that Pat isn't going to simply take a sack if Hill or Kelce is open and nobody else is. The tangential issue is that Hill and Kelce are always open, due to how good they are and scheme.
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I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.
Ok, just so we're on the same page though, if one of the first ballot HOF'ers get hurt, our offense will get worse.

They've got Mahomes and Andy. They can figure it out if one of them go down.

But I don't understand why we want to throw it elsewhere when those two always seem to be open. It's been that way for 3 years now. Are defenses gonna figure this out?

It's almost like players of that caliber, with a coach of Andy's caliber manipulating the defense and a QB liek Mahomes throwing them the ball are gonna just get open and it doesn't matter what anyone does.
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It's more about the fear that the good defenses could double them both and force Mahomes to throw to himself, since no one else can win 1v1 consistently.

And honestly, the only team that i could see actually pulling that off is the Patriots.
Maybe.

But we've seen them go against the best defenses in the league and do what they do.

I don't really think it's something ot worry about.
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