***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Go Royals]

Originally Posted by O.city

It was actually alot harder for me to get it than I thought it would be.

I dunno why. Not because of fear or anything, but I felt........like I didn't deserve it for some reason?

Being my age and such I really felt like I would rather give it to my grandmother. I know being in the job I am I'm at a high risk but it just felt off.

I really feel like those of us who have been fortunate enough to get it are very blessed and need to do what we can to pay it forward.

Yeah, I've had this feeling since the shot as well.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

It was actually alot harder for me to get it than I thought it would be.

I dunno why. Not because of fear or anything, but I felt........like I didn't deserve it for some reason?

Being my age and such I really felt like I would rather give it to my grandmother. I know being in the job I am I'm at a high risk but it just felt off.

I really feel like those of us who have been fortunate enough to get it are very blessed and need to do what we can to pay it forward.

I know you know this, but there's zero reason you should feel bad about it. Priority number one is getting this thing into as many arms as possible, so when someone says "you're up," you don't say no.

You can argue who is more deserving or whatever, but that's for the bureaucrats to decide unfortunately.

[TLO]

Our vaccine shipment got diverted. Again. As long as it's going to good use I'm ok with it, but I really want to see our people be offered the vaccine soon.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

It was actually alot harder for me to get it than I thought it would be.

I dunno why. Not because of fear or anything, but I felt........like I didn't deserve it for some reason?

Being my age and such I really felt like I would rather give it to my grandmother. I know being in the job I am I'm at a high risk but it just felt off.

I really feel like those of us who have been fortunate enough to get it are very blessed and need to do what we can to pay it forward.

I do understand your thinking here. But seriously man, you spend hours a day starting into people's mouths. Where who knows what ungodly particles are flying all over you.

You deserve the shot.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I know you know this, but there's zero reason you should feel bad about it. Priority number one is getting this thing into as many arms as possible, so when someone says "you're up," you don't say no.

You can argue who is more deserving or whatever, but that's for the bureaucrats to decide unfortunately.

You're probably right. Still, I can't help but feel a bit unworthy I guess.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

You're probably right. Still, I can't help but feel a bit unworthy I guess.

My 90-year-old grandmother asked her doctor if she could give her spot to my 40-year-old cousin who is operating on one of his mom's kidneys. The answer was no, but just funny how different people have different perceptions of whether it's "fair" for them to be up.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My 90-year-old grandmother asked her doctor if she could give her spot to my 40-year-old cousin who is operating on one of his mom's kidneys. The answer was no, but just funny how different people have different perceptions of whether it's "fair" for them to be up.

This whole year has just been a whirlwind. You guys know what my family has gone thru, so there's alot of happiness that it's over, but reflection and such brings alot of tough feelings.

I'm just kinda beaten down.

[O.city]

On the bright side, my moms brain bleed has stopped and she's getting to go home today around 4.

Appreciate the thoughts

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by O.city

This whole year has just been a whirlwind. You guys know what my family has gone thru, so there's alot of happiness that it's over, but reflection and such brings alot of tough feelings.

I'm just kinda beaten down.

I believe we go though hard times for a reason.. It may not be now but over time you will realize why.. Glad you got the shot..

[MahomesMagic]

Hospital data from Sweden, where schools stayed open, shows #Covid caused no deaths in children - and teachers were 57% LESS likely to need intensive care for Covid than other working adults. Yes, less likely.

We are destroying our kids FOR NOTHING.https://t.co/a8dTVgQYhZ

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) January 7, 2021

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I know you know this, but there's zero reason you should feel bad about it. Priority number one is getting this thing into as many arms as possible, so when someone says "you're up," you don't say no.

You can argue who is more deserving or whatever, but that's for the bureaucrats to decide unfortunately.

Yeah, "you're up" is basically how I'm looking at it, after delaying getting scheduled myself, since I'm low risk all around. Logistically though, every person who delays getting it now is one more person needing to be scheduled later, stand in line later, etc.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

It was actually alot harder for me to get it than I thought it would be.

I dunno why. Not because of fear or anything, but I felt........like I didn't deserve it for some reason?

Being my age and such I really felt like I would rather give it to my grandmother. I know being in the job I am I'm at a high risk but it just felt off.

I really feel like those of us who have been fortunate enough to get it are very blessed and need to do what we can to pay it forward.

You shouldn't feel guilty because you are in a high risk job plus there is lots of people that have already turned down getting it. As I said before we only had like a 50-60% acceptance rate so I don't feel guilty at all. They had their chance.

[Indian Chief]

Hospital sent an email yesterday and I thought one particular sentence was interesting. "In addition to vaccinating all of our healthcare workers, providers, and nurses, we are also vaccinating other healthcare professionals (i.e. dentists) not associated with the hospital."

I hadn't heard that before reading about it.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by O.city

You're probably right. Still, I can't help but feel a bit unworthy I guess.

Goes to show you were brought up to have morals and high character, values .says a lot for your parents.Don’t know you from Adam but they I’d bet your a good person

[O.city]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Goes to show you were brought up to have morals and high character, values .says a lot for your parents.Don’t know you from Adam but they I’d bet your a good person

I try to do the best I can. I figure thats about all we can do.

This thread has been cathartic for me. I appreciate all you guys thru all this.