Seinfeld and Kramer-together again and going for coffee

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Munson

If that was the point, I suppose they succeeded. I was expecting to laugh my ass off.

The only real work Michael Richards has seen since the "incident" has been through Seinfeld. I think Jerry cares about his long time friend and was doing his part to help to rehabilitate Richards' image.

While I think that Richards was in the wrong at the time, I've seen and heard far worse at Comedy Clubs.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The only real work Michael Richards has seen since the "incident" has been through Seinfeld. I think Jerry cares about his long time friend and was doing his part to help to rehabilitate Richards' image.

While I think that Richards was in the wrong at the time, I've seen and heard far worse at Comedy Clubs.

This.

The dude has apologized profusely about the incident. Continually damning him for it for the rest of his life is bullshit.

FFS.....Vick did what he did and people love him like it's no big deal.

[Easy 6]

I totally loved this, imagine being out somewhere & seeing those two running around together, what a cool freak out that would be.

The chess story was awesome.

[Two-Twenty]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The only real work Michael Richards has seen since the "incident" has been through Seinfeld. I think Jerry cares about his long time friend and was doing his part to help to rehabilitate Richards' image.

While I think that Richards was in the wrong at the time, I've seen and heard far worse at Comedy Clubs.

Wow, youre probably older than me, but ive been to a ton of comedy clubs and never heard anything this bad. Not just because im black, but because this weak minded buffoon completly stopped his comedy routine and got all the way emotional.

Of course ive heard racist and sexist jokes come from comedians of multiple ethnicities, but when you completely breakdown and stop your routine to remind an audience member that "50 years ago you would be hanging from a rope right now" or some stupid shit like that, with all the seriousness and malice he could muster up, well thats some damning shit.

OK for anonymous CP members hiding behind keyboards, but not ok for celebrities in the public eye benefitting from public advertising money.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

Wow, youre probably older than me, but ive been to a ton of comedy clubs and never heard anything this bad. Not just because im black, but because this weak minded buffoon completly stopped his comedy routine and got all the way emotional.

Of course ive heard racist and sexist jokes come from comedians of multiple ethnicities, but when you completely breakdown and stop your routine to remind an audience member that "50 years ago you would be hanging from a rope right now" or some stupid shit like that, with all the seriousness and malice he could muster up, well thats some damning shit.

OK for anonymous CP members hiding behind keyboards, but not ok for celebrities in the public eye benefitting from public advertising money.

On a basic, human level... havent you ever been a terrible person at some point in life, learned hard truths about it & strived to redeem yourself?

[Two-Twenty]

Originally Posted by scott free

On a basic, human level... havent you ever been a terrible person at some point in life, learned hard truths about it & strived to redeem yourself?

o hell yeah, ive been the worst. and ive learned from my mistakes

and im not even judging him. all humans make mistakes

[chasedude]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

o hell yeah, ive been the worst. and ive learned from my mistakes

and im not even judging him. all humans make mistakes

but on another note; you only have to rape one little boy to land on the sex offender list

I'm sure you're just trying to dramatic with your metaphor but raping a child is no where NEAR calling someone a racial slur.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

but on another note; you only have to rape one little boy to land on the sex offender list

An evil predeliction for little kids is far different from the kind of moral lapse that all people have been guilty of.

Once guilty, forever guilty? thats a very unfair standard, but carry on.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

Wow, youre probably older than me, but ive been to a ton of comedy clubs and never heard anything this bad. Not just because im black, but because this weak minded buffoon completly stopped his comedy routine and got all the way emotional.

Yes, I've heard worse. I went to comedy clubs in the KC area in the 80's (Stanfords - both locations and more) and heard more offensive language and "humor" than when Richards clearly lost it.

I'm not condoning his actions. It's obvious he was on edge and should have just walked away but instead, took the low road.

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

Of course ive heard racist and sexist jokes come from comedians of multiple ethnicities, but when you completely breakdown and stop your routine to remind an audience member that "50 years ago you would be hanging from a rope right now" or some stupid shit like that, with all the seriousness and malice he could muster up, well thats some damning shit.

See above. He's not Mel Gibson. He hasn't had multiple instances of public or overt racism. He had a bad day and made a bad choice.

Again, not condoning, just recognizing the facts.

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

OK for anonymous CP members hiding behind keyboards,

I don't think that's "okay" on CP. As a matter of fact, I think it's a bannable offense, as it should be.

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

but not ok for celebrities in the public eye benefitting from public advertising money.

You lost me here. What exactly are you referencing?

[Two-Twenty]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, I've heard worse. I went to comedy clubs in the KC area in the 80's (Stanfords - both locations and more) and heard more offensive language and "humor" than when Richards clearly lost it.

I'm not condoning his actions. It's obvious he was on edge and should have just walked away but instead, took the low road.



See above. He's not Mel Gibson. He hasn't had multiple instances of public or overt racism. He had a bad day and made a bad choice.

Again, not condoning, just recognizing the facts.



I don't think that's "okay" on CP. As a matter of fact, I think it's a bannable offense, as it should be.



You lost me here. What exactly are you referencing?

Yeah, it just bothers me that the tirade wasnt in joke form at all. it looked and sounded very real, which is scary considering hate crimes and the mob mentality that some people have.

Just arguing about Kramers legacy.

I could be wrong but I dont see him getting another shot on a major network. I dont think advertisers will risk a boycott or really low ratings by backing this guy. Those are the cosequences i was referring to. I know its not tolerated on CP either but you can say racist things and the world will never know. But in real life, depending on your industry, there could be repercussions for what you say.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

I could be wrong but I dont see him getting another shot on a major network. I dont think advertisers will risk a boycott or really low ratings by backing this guy.

He's 63 years old. He hasn't been on a network TV show the ill-fated Michael Richards Show in 2000, which only lasted a few weeks.

2006 rant or not, the guy wasn't garnering any network attention, anyway and I agree, it definitely sealed his fate.

[qabbaan]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

Of course ive heard racist and sexist jokes come from comedians of multiple ethnicities, but when you completely breakdown and stop your routine to remind an audience member that "50 years ago you would be hanging from a rope right now"

So the problem was with the delivery?

Tons of edgy, racist stuff happens in every comedy club. Those places are cesspools for the raunchy and tasteless. Most of the reason this became a big deal was because it was Kramer. If he'd been small time or if the races were reversed, nobody makes a big deal.

That being said, it was racist, he apologized, he seems repentant, the guys career was ruined. I think he has paid the penalty for a few n bombs, and if he wants to entertain people again, which is what he loves doing, good for him.