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C-Mac · 11-29-2007, 08:18 AM

Croyle

Injury could force Croyle to sit Sunday
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs quarterback Brodie Croyle was obviously out of sorts early in last week’s game against Oakland after he took a knee in the back from a Raiders player.

Croyle moved around in evident discomfort, wore a stimulating wrap while on the sideline and even retreated to the locker room at one point for an injection to deaden the pain.

But Croyle played through the pain, and the general assumption by outside observers was that he would be fine for this week’s game against San Diego at Arrowhead Stadium.

Those closer to Croyle realized otherwise.

“It didn’t look that bad, but you could tell it was bad,” reserve quarterback Tyler Thigpen said. “I know from the type of person Brodie is that he was hurting. Just from the way he was talking and holding his posture and everything, you could tell.”

Croyle wouldn’t discuss the exact nature of the injury. He didn’t practice Wednesday as the Chiefs began preparations for the Chargers game. He wasn’t confident he would be able to practice today or play on Sunday.

“If we can (practice) by Friday, we’ve got a good shot,” Croyle said. “I’m not in this thing deep enough where I can do the Steve McNair thing and not practice and then just go in and play. I’m still young in this league, and I still need all the snaps I can get.”

Coach Herm Edwards agreed that Croyle would play if he could practice by Friday.

“Remember, he’s taken (practice snaps) like a starter from the beginning,” Edwards said. “We’re not going to put him in harm’s way. If he’s not mobile enough to get out of the way (of the pass rush), then it doesn’t make any sense.”

Damon Huard, who began the season as the starter before being replaced by Croyle earlier this month, stepped in at practice Wednesday. He would start against the Chargers if Croyle doesn’t play.

“Physically, I feel pretty good,” Huard said. “I certainly haven’t taken the hits and my body has recovered a little bit. It wasn’t that long ago, so hopefully the timing is still there. It was good out there at practice.”

Croyle took the hit on the second offensive play of the game. He rolled to his right and, unable to find an open receiver, tucked the ball under his arm to run.

He gained 4 yards but paid the price. He threw his only interception of the game on the next play.

When he got to the sideline, Croyle received attention from Chiefs medical personnel and Huard warmed up as if he was getting ready to replace Croyle.

That never happened. Croyle continued to play to the finish and the Raiders beat the Chiefs 20-17.

“He fought through it and played,” Edwards said. “That’s what kind of kid he is. He’s a tough guy. He got through it, but he was still sore the next day.”

Croyle said little about the injury to reporters afterward.

“You don’t ever want to make a big deal about injuries,” he said. “If it’s bad enough to make a big deal out of, you shouldn’t be in the game.”

Croyle has made only two starts for the Chiefs, but is used to the idea that quarterbacks have to play through pain. The right-handed Croyle played almost his entire sophomore season at Alabama with a separated left shoulder.

“But that,” he said, “was a little different than this.”

Huard took several severe hits as the starter in the first nine games. He was sidelined by a hit to the head in the fourth quarter of a September game against Chicago.

He was also sent out in the fourth quarter of last month’s game against Jacksonville because of an injured shoulder that the Chiefs initially believed would prevent him from playing in the following week’s game, but Huard played.

“You’re a sitting duck a lot of times back there,” he said. “Brodie certainly fought through some good shots. It’s never fun to get hit back there.”

Braincase · 11-29-2007, 12:23 PM

Huard has won more games this year than Croyle.

What a minute... Is 4 greater than 0?

Hammock Parties · 11-29-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

what plays?

we losing and not scoring with Huard...his last game was a QB rating of 50...he wasn't even good enough to be considered a bad QB....

but you and hootie still want him to lead us...

No. I want Croyle out there. I've stated that since the Denver game.

But the passing offense HAS fallen off. Just as I predicted it would. I KNEW Brodie wasn't a cure-all. And the defenders certainly aren't backing out of the box like some of the morons on this site predicted.

FAX · 11-29-2007, 12:30 PM

“Physically, I feel pretty good,” Huard said. “I certainly haven’t taken the hits and my body has recovered a little bit. It wasn’t that long ago, so hopefully the timing is still there. It was good out there at practice.”

FAX

Chiefnj2 · 11-29-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

“Physically, I feel pretty good,” Huard said. “I certainly haven’t taken the hits and my body has recovered a little bit. It wasn’t that long ago, so hopefully the timing is still there. It was good out there at practice.”

FAX

You think it is easy to perfect the timing of falling into fetal position 2 seconds before a defender touches you? That isn't something that comes overnight.

**Easy 6** · 11-29-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

No. I want Croyle out there. I've stated that since the Denver game.

But the passing offense HAS fallen off. Just as I predicted it would. I KNEW Brodie wasn't a cure-all. And the defenders certainly aren't backing out of the box like some of the morons on this site predicted.

The same line that couldnt block for LJ or Priest blocked for Kolby when he went for 150...you dont think Brodies arm had anything to do with that???...please.

Yeah, Kolby ran like a demon...but my $$$ says a lot of those lanes were more open because the D knew Brodie could hit'em with a 30 yarder in .5 seconds.

Katie · 11-29-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Dude needs to muscle up. I've got more muscle in my arm than he does in his entire body. He'll never last the season with his current frame (plus, he has a history of being often injured).

Didn't you hear the announcers at the last game talking about how BIG Croyle's forearms are? You would have thought that was the most important physical attribute ever!

Hammock Parties · 11-29-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

The same line that couldnt block for LJ or Priest blocked for Kolby when he went for 150...you dont think Brodies arm had anything to do with that???...please.

Yeah, Kolby ran like a demon...but my $$$ says a lot of those lanes were more open because the D knew Brodie could hit'em with a 30 yarder in .5 seconds.

That's really dumb, scott.

For the first time all year the line was opening holes. There were tons of defenders in the box as usual. They were just getting blocked this time.

FAX · 11-29-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I just don't get it.

Isn't he 6'2 205? That's only 5 lbs lighter than Trent Green was correct?

But this is a bad sign. Yes injuries happen but the big knock on Croyle was that he was injury prone. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

No, it doesn't make me wonder if he's fragile or something. Now, he may be under a curse ... that's certainly possible. But, if Lee Van Cleef drove a knee into Clint Eastwood's friggin' kidney, even he would have hit the cantina for a while.

FAX

FAX · 11-29-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

The same line that couldnt block for LJ or Priest blocked for Kolby when he went for 150...you dont think Brodies arm had anything to do with that???...please.

Yeah, Kolby ran like a demon...but my $$$ says a lot of those lanes were more open because the D knew Brodie could hit'em with a 30 yarder in .5 seconds.

Brodie stuck fear into the enemy defense. They had no idea how to defend him and they sure as heck didn't want him throwing the ball. That's why they let us gain yards in the run game, knowing that Solari would stick with it and pass on the pass.

Simple logic.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones · 11-29-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I just don't get it.

Isn't he 6'2 205? That's only 5 lbs lighter than Trent Green was correct?

But this is a bad sign. Yes injuries happen but the big knock on Croyle was that he was injury prone. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

I just want him to add a little bit of muscle. I don't want him to get like McNabb and get so muscular that it effects his mechanics. McNabb is too big up top that he can't properly rotate and follow through with his throws. I heard the Eagles coaching staff tried to get him to cut down this offseason but he came back five pounds heavier (all muscle).

People want to blame T.O. for the problems in Philly back then, but I say they should thank T.O. for bringing out the real McNabb, as far as leadership goes, or lack thereof. I heard that McNabb is not popular at all in the locker room.

Anyway, back on topic, I think Croyle should just build a little bit of muscle, just don't over do it. It would help him and his stamina, IMO.

**Easy 6** · 11-29-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

That's really dumb, scott.

For the first time all year the line was opening holes. There were tons of defenders in the box as usual. They were just getting blocked this time.

OK, lets assume your right...the passing game has taken a hit in some areas...so what???, we all figured there would be some growing pains with Brodie...so, here we go, lets get'em outta the way.

We've all seen Brodies rocket launcher in action, all he needs is more time to get the mental game down & fine tune his touch on the short stuff...when that happens, we'll be building Golden Shrines in his honor.

I could care less about the Dems or Repubs, i'm going with the Croyle/Bowe ticket in 08!!!

Hammock Parties · 11-29-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

OK, lets assume your right...the passing game has taken a hit in some areas...so what???,

I absolutely agree. I want Brodie in there.

**Nzoner** · 11-29-2007, 01:21 PM

The injury is bogus,Herm's just panicking and since Huard was at the helm in the last win vs. Diego he's hoping it'll work again.

splatbass · 11-29-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

The injury is bogus,Herm's just panicking and since Huard was at the helm in the last win vs. Diego he's hoping it'll work again.

You have any evidence of this, or are you just making it up?

CupidStunt · 11-29-2007, 01:36 PM

We really are in deep shit in Croyle doesn't pan out. No sense in playing him against the likes of Phillips and Merriman if he's not at full strength. I'd rather not see him broken in half so QB is added to the already-lengthy 'need list'.

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