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Old 10-18-2019, 03:41 PM   Topic Starter
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Gronk or Kelce

Two great TE's. When both were at their best, who was better? Again, this isn't about who you would rather have long term. Or necessarily about better career. Someone can have a better career yet not necessarily be better (For example Brady has had a better career than Montana. But Joe was better).
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:43 PM   #2
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When healthy, Gronk was about as good as they get. Kelce is pretty damn close, though, and he doesn't get injured near as often.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:44 PM   #3
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:44 PM   #4
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At their absolute best I'd take Kelce. At their absolute worst I'd take Kelce.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:45 PM   #5
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Gronk was a better blocker

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Gronks career is atleast partially due to Tom Brady throwing dimes. Kelce peaked and lead the league in YAC with smith throwing down and behind him..
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:49 PM   #7
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:53 PM   #9
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Dare I ask if Kelce is on the level of Tony Gonzalez in his prime? I'm sure I'll get hell for even asking.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:56 PM   #10
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Dare I ask if Kelce is on the level of Tony Gonzalez in his prime? I'm sure I'll get hell for even asking.
Yeah he’s in the same league for sure.
Tony had better hands, but Kelce is harder to cover and gets more YAC.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:54 PM   #11
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I like Gronk, but I'd take Kelce.

Gronk was injury prone.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:59 PM   #12
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I like Gronk, but I'd take Kelce.

Gronk was injury prone.
But that's not the question. At their absolute peak who was better? Who would most NFL fans take for one do or die game?
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But that's not the question. At their absolute peak who was better? Who would most NFL fans take for one do or die game?
That's impossible to answer because Gronk played with Brady in an offense that didn't have a legit #1 receiver or premiere running back for most of his time with the Patriots. He was their offense for long stretches of time.

What kind of numbers would Kelce have put up with Brady in that offense? I think he would have put up better numbers because he could stay healthy.

What kind of numbers would Gronk have put up with Alex Smith/Mahomes throwing him the ball, with Jamaal Charles at RB and then Hill at WR? I don't think he would have matched Kelce's numbers.

I will take Kelce over Gronk. Every day.

But, I don't think either of them are in the conversation with TG. Tony may not have been as fast as Kelce, or as big as Gronk, but remember that until this year the only player in NFL history with more career catches than TG was Jerry Rice, who may just be the best player in the history of the NFL.

With the exception of his 2nd season, TG caught almost every ball that was in his general vicinity. And it didn't matter if he was covered by a LB, CB, Safety, or two or three guys, he was coming down with the ball.

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