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Old 02-10-2020, 09:27 AM   Topic Starter
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Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones

Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:38 AM   #2
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So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:41 AM   #3
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So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
Its honestly a safe bet to be fair. And Mahomes might want to wait for new CBA before signing extension so... Pay heavy on Jones Contract first two years then extend Mahomes.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:41 AM   #4
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So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
I think you have to have a long term solution for Patrick before Jones. Will Jones and his agent be okay/understanding about that? We’ll see.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:41 AM   #5
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So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
or the new CBA has some kind of exception for QB's?
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or the new CBA has some kind of exception for QB's?
Hope this happens. Would be a big win for the Chiefs and Mahomes.
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or the new CBA has some kind of exception for QB's?
This seems like it would make sense. Why do you want to penalize good QB's?

As we've seen with Rogers and Wilson, if you pay your start QB, you're forced to surround them with a crappy OL and offensive weapons.

To me its in the NFL's best financial interest to not penalize the star QB's.
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Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
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He’s neglecting other cuts that can be made instead of Wilson.

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I think Wilson needs to stay and Colquitt has had a very nice run but it is time.
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I think Wilson needs to stay and Colquitt has had a very nice run but it is time.
Unless Colquitt retires since he finally got a ring.
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I'm not cutting Wilson. He was really good in the playoffs.
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I'm not cutting Wilson. He was really good in the playoffs.
Exactly and it’s not like we have a ton of depth to make up for his loss. Our LB group isn’t that great.

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