***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's nice. But as you can see, Fauci didn't refuse to acknowledge that the protests and riots would spread the virus, as you claimed. In fact, he did the exact opposite.

Originally Posted by stumppy

I suppose you expected him to list any and all actions that could contribute to the spread of covid?!

GTFO

You're completely transparent on what you have a problem with and it has nothing to do with Covid.

He actually has..ie football games and schools.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by O.city

Would further explain why some have such mild reactions to this thing atleast.

And why the herd immunity threshold seems 20%-40% lower than expected. We’ve been seeing hints of this as the data rolls in.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Odd that a guy who has spent his entire career in the political arena wants to deny he wants to be involved in politics.

I wasn't aware he was an elected official , just because they work at the white house doesn't mean they are inherently political especially medical/research/science capacity.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He actually has..ie football games and schools.

And protests/riots.

Keep digging.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

His refusal to acknowledge rioting would spread C-19 was pretty damning.

This is not true but, more importantly, has nothing to do with jdubya's anger towards him. You make no sense.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Donger

And protests/riots.

Keep digging.

The loony left's refusal to admit their protests/riots were a big factor in the spread of COVID is pretty astounding.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The loony left's refusal to admit their protests/riots were a big factor in the spread of COVID is pretty astounding.

I don't believe that it has been proven that the protests/riots were a big factor in the spread of COVID-19. I have no doubt that they resulted in some new cases, however. It's spread by humans, after all.

[O.city]

Where they lost some people was when they said "don't go protest your business being closed down, you're making it worse" then turned around and said "go protest this it's worth the risk".

Right or wrong, you're gonna lose alot of people's confidence when you say that.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Where they lost some people was when they said "don't go protest your business being closed down, you're making it worse" then turned around and said "go protest this it's worth the risk".

Right or wrong, you're gonna lose alot of people's confidence when you say that.

I think telling black people they can't or should not protest against racial injustice would have made things worse there were in a bit of a pickle.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Where they lost some people was when they said "don't go protest your business being closed down, you're making it worse" then turned around and said "go protest this it's worth the risk".

Right or wrong, you're gonna lose alot of people's confidence when you say that.

Agreed. This virus doesn't care about feels, motives or politics. It just wants a host to infect.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think telling black people they can't or should not protest against racial injustice would have made things worse there were in a bit of a pickle.

Either it's not safe to go protest or it is.

All the rest was politics and bullshit.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Either it's not safe to go protest or it is.

All the rest was politics and bullshit.

If you are referring to the letter that ~1,000 doctors signed, they acknowledged that the protests would likely result in new cases.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Donger

Agreed. This virus doesn't care about feels, motives or politics. It just wants a host to infect.

Are you assuming the intentions of the virus now? You don't know if it wants to infect people or it just works that way. Next you'll be telling us that coconuts migrate.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Are you assuming the intentions of the virus now? You don't know if it wants to infect people or it just works that way. Next you'll be telling us that coconuts migrate.

I almost put wants in quotes, but I presumed it was implied. I guess not.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Either it's not safe to go protest or it is.

All the rest was politics and bullshit.

The riots would have been worse/bigger potentially causing even more violence or virus spread.