Chiefs Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks - Page 11

carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-02-2021, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

More whispers about his Toe.

Anyone else notice Mahomes looking like he hurt his foot on the sideline last night? He was jumping around all weird and shit (like it hurt and he was playing it off) and then limping afterwards. I saw it and they're talking about it on the radio right now.

Yup. And would explain why his throws started diving low towards the end of the game.

PAChiefsGuy · 11-02-2021, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I just think he's got a lot on his plate in personal life.

Recently married
New born baby (lack of sleep always)
Commercials
Stress of celebrity status

All that on top life's usual aches and pains. He's stretching himself thin and it's showing.

Just stop it. Mahomes does not have a stressful life. Lol.

Dude is set for life w a contract most NFL players can only dream of and he plays a game for a living.

What a tough life.

manchambo · 11-02-2021, 10:26 AM

I think it's reasonable to question whether he has some issues from recent concussions and head shots. I saw an article yesterday speculating whether his career may be in jeopardy--which is nonsense, I think.

But I think it is reasonable to ask whether he needs or needed a couple of weeks off after the Titans game.

TEX · 11-02-2021, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I just think he's got a lot on his plate in personal life.

Recently married
New born baby (lack of sleep always)
Commercials
Stress of celebrity status

All that on top life's usual aches and pains. He's stretching himself thin and it's showing.

I bet it's his toe. His mechanics are off, that leads me to think he's compensating due to something physical.

Otter · 11-02-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Just stop it. Mahomes does not have a stressful life. Lol.

Dude is set for life w a contract most NFL players can only dream of and he plays a game for a living.

What a tough life.

Just curious, ever raise a child? "It takes a village" is term for a reason.

And I'm just guessing here on the reasons why but he's not the Patrick we're used to at the moment. There's a funk with the entire team right now.

**Bearcat** · 11-02-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Just curious, ever raise a child? "It takes a village" is term for a reason.

And I'm just guessing here on the reasons why but he's not the Patrick we're used to at the moment. There's a funk with the entire team right now.

Unless there's an article out there about how he's up at 2am on game days with a screaming child, we really have no information on how they're handling it. I know you said you're just guessing, as we all are, but in that particular case I think it's a big assumption given his fiancé is probably well aware of the weekly demands and need for sleep during the season.

Same with commercials and other personal life things... I'd doubt he's shooting commercials in the middle of the season, and if it does happen, I would assume he's spending the same amount of free time he's always had and not sacrificing practices and film study, etc.

Those are things people always want to point to along with "he's got paid!!", but he wasn't Bills/Titans/NYG bad the first month of the season either... it was mostly just a few bad interceptions leading up to playing the Bills. All of those other things didn't just manifest themselves in October.

JohnnyHammersticks · 11-02-2021, 11:01 AM

This thread should be pinned so that the Mahomes doubters can rightfully be ridiculed mercilessly for the next 2 decades.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-02-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Just stop it. Mahomes does not have a stressful life. Lol.

Dude is set for life w a contract most NFL players can only dream of and he plays a game for a living.

What a tough life.

The "he plays a game" is such overused envious BS. It's this kind of nonsense thats leading to mental breakdowns left and right.

It's a tough life. He works real hard at it. He's already had two major surgeries and probably pays through pain most weeks. And for as much fame as he gets, he also has to deal with a ton of obligations that come with being a superstar. For a guy like him, it can absolutely be stressful and draining. On top of that caring for his kid and it sure looks like he's very involved. You don't have to feel sorry for him but you can have the understanding that nfl life is plenty stressful.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-02-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Unless there's an article out there about how he's up at 2am on game days with a screaming child, we really have no information on how they're handling it. I know you said you're just guessing, as we all are, but in that particular case I think it's a big assumption given his fiancé is probably well aware of the weekly demands and need for sleep during the season.

Same with commercials and other personal life things... I'd doubt he's shooting commercials in the middle of the season, and if it does happen, I would assume he's spending the same amount of free time he's always had and not sacrificing practices and film study, etc.

Those are things people always want to point to along with "he's got paid!!", but he wasn't Bills/Titans/NYG bad the first month of the season either... it was mostly just a few bad interceptions leading up to playing the Bills. All of those other things didn't just manifest themselves in October.

I don't think anyone points these things out to suggest mahomes is forever distracted. Just that for this particular offseason he has a loootttt of things going on

**DaFace** · 11-02-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

This thread should be pinned so that the Mahomes doubters can rightfully be ridiculed mercilessly for the next 2 decades.

I don't see how criticizing his current performance equates to anything that is worthy of ridicule. I'm not calling to cut the guy, but it's pretty clear he's playing like a below-average NFL QB right now.

PAChiefsGuy · 11-02-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The "he plays a game" is such overused envious BS. It's this kind of nonsense thats leading to mental breakdowns left and right.

It's a tough life. He works real hard at it. He's already had two major surgeries and probably pays through pain most weeks. And for as much fame as he gets, he also has to deal with a ton of obligations that come with being a superstar. For a guy like him, it can absolutely be stressful and draining. On top of that caring for his kid and it sure looks like he's very involved. You don't have to feel sorry for him but you can have the understanding that nfl life is plenty stressful.

It's not a tough life. A tough life is going to jail for something you didn't do, being a soldier during a war, single Mom raising two kids etc..

Im not saying his life is perfect or stress free. I'm just saying compared to the average American his life is pretty sweet.

If he can't deal w his current level of stress then Chiefs are in serious trouble.

treeguy27 · 11-02-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

This thread should be pinned so that the Mahomes doubters can rightfully be ridiculed mercilessly for the next 2 decades.

I haven't seen anyone say he sucks and is done and will never be the same again. Most people are pointing out that he's struggling right now, which he is.

The last three seasons were not a fluke. He'll get back to being that QB. It's just a matter of when.

Otter · 11-02-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Unless there's an article out there about how he's up at 2am on game days with a screaming child, we really have no information on how they're handling it. I know you said you're just guessing, as we all are, but in that particular case I think it's a big assumption given his fiancé is probably well aware of the weekly demands and need for sleep during the season.

Same with commercials and other personal life things... I'd doubt he's shooting commercials in the middle of the season, and if it does happen, I would assume he's spending the same amount of free time he's always had and not sacrificing practices and film study, etc.

Those are things people always want to point to along with "he's got paid!!", but he wasn't Bills/Titans/NYG bad the first month of the season either... it was mostly just a few bad interceptions leading up to playing the Bills. All of those other things didn't just manifest themselves in October.

I agree I'm just spitballing (hey, it's ChiefsPlanet, it's what we do) but it seems to be team wide and I'd consider Patrick the field general on offense and Honey Badger the field general on defense and both seem...frustrated.

It runs downhill.

**Bearcat** · 11-02-2021, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think anyone points these things out to suggest mahomes is forever distracted. Just that for this particular offseason he has a loootttt of things going on

I think plenty of people are suggesting just that... the "too focused on non-football things". I mean, not smart people, but plenty of people.

And I agree with your other post, I'm sure it's a stressful life and he seems to be the type who would want to please everyone the best he can, and maybe at the end of the day it's having an impact.

And there's of course a fine line between being Superman and being Clark Kent.

It's also strange to me that all of these theories of "what's wrong?!?" pop up right now, in the past month, like he hadn't been handling all of these things prior to October... and with little insight into facts beyond the life they show on social media.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-02-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

It's not a tough life. A tough life is going to jail for something you didn't do, being a soldier during a war, single Mom raising two kids etc..

Im not saying his life is perfect or stress free. I'm just saying compared to the average American his life is pretty sweet.

If he can't deal w his current level of stress then Chiefs are in serious trouble.

A CEO can make tens of million dollars. Would anyone say their life isn't stressful? Guys like Patrick mahomes work really really hard and particularly in football it's enduring pain, living in hotels, tons of press obligations, tons of media and sponsorship obligations. And in today's environment the public pressures to do a good job and as we've seen from those who don't, the major stress when you don't do your job. It's not always a sweet life. It's why even the most successful athletes like tiger and Mj have had complete mental breakdowns

Several elite qbs had a setback season after having their first kid. And again, this is on top of just getting that new contract and sponsorships that come with it, and battling back from surgery. Nobody said he can't handle it. But understandably he has more on his mind than usual right now.

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carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $2833695	Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ing dorks "broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel" These are all words that people used to describe Patrick **ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ING Ankiel????? Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the in ball. But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ing wall. You don't know what the is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play. What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ing ball. But that's the ing truth. If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want?? Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a **ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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