Cardinals ***Official 2021 STL Cardinals Thread*** - Page 3

Marco Polo · 04-01-2021, 04:15 PM

Great offensive start to the game! Too bad JF can't last through five innings.

**BigRedChief** · 04-01-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo

Great offensive start to the game! Too bad JF can't last through five innings.

never know if it’s pitching or It’s that bandbox of a park. No pitcher looks good there.

**BigRedChief** · 04-01-2021, 05:25 PM

I like O’Neill and or Carlson in the #4 hole over Dejong. I know they were in consistent last year but they had good spring trainings and way more upside. Give em a chance.

If I’m doing the lineup it’s...

Edman
Carlson
Goldschmidt
Arenado
O’Neill
Dejong
Molina
Williams
Pitcher

**BigRedChief** · 04-08-2021, 06:22 PM

Arenado with the 2 run homer in the bottom of the 8th FTW on opening day.

bdj23 · 04-16-2021, 05:53 PM

Rotation is ass

**BigRedChief** · 04-18-2021, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Rotation is ass

Truth. Kim Throwing 88 MPH fastballs, Waino at 91, Carlos cant get through a start without melting down, Gant is a crap shoot etc.

bdj23 · 04-18-2021, 10:24 AM

Remember when Mo let Lance Lynn walk? Sure would be nice to have him right about now.

Frazod · 04-18-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Remember when Mo let Lance Lynn walk? Sure would be nice to have him right about now.

It was always nice to have him in the first half of the season. But not when his arm falls off after the all star break.

Miles · 04-18-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Remember when Mo let Lance Lynn walk? Sure would be nice to have him right about now.

I much more recently remember the time he went through all the effort to trade for a star 3B and then didn’t do anything about adding another SP or an OF bat.

Jewish Rabbi · 04-18-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

I much more recently remember the time he went through all the effort to trade for a star 3B and then didn’t do anything about adding another SP or an OF bat.

Season tickets on sale now!

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-18-2021, 10:29 AM

The Mo era Cardinals teams are not even likable one bit. Fire his ass.

Marcellus · 04-18-2021, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

The Mo era Cardinals teams are not even likable one bit. Fire his ass.

Truth and unfortunately the team is just a few players they could easily have from being actually good and fun to watch.

Instead they keep running Marp and Martinez out there, extended Mikolas for no reason, let Ozuna and Wong walk, and have the most boring soggy cardboard yes man manager in all of baseball. Oy yea and O'Neil and Bader are both 4A players not big leaguers.

The Marp, Mikolas, and Fowler deals would have gotten 99 of 100 GM/front office guys fired by now.

.500 team again but it was .200 effort by the organization.

bdj23 · 04-18-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Truth and unfortunately the team is just a few players they could easily have from being actually good and fun to watch.

Instead they keep running Marp and Martinez out there, extended Mikolas for no reason, let Ozuna and Wong walk, and have the most boring soggy cardboard yes man manager in all of baseball. Oy yea and O'Neil and Bader are both 4A players not big leaguers.

The Marp, Mikolas, and Fowler deals would have gotten 99 of 100 GM/front office guys fired by now.

.500 team again but it was .200 effort by the organization.

Ballpark Village condos now for lease!!

**BigRedChief** · 04-18-2021, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Truth and unfortunately the team is just a few players they could easily have from being actually good and fun to watch.

carlson is hitting .400+ with RISP and a .900 OPS. Average getting up to .275+ and he’s still hitting 7/8.

We really only got one position open to improve in 2022. You put Bader in CF, it’s zero opportunity. Assuming Gorman can play a corner OF.

2022 lineup

Edman
Carlson
Arenado
Goldy
Gorman
Dejong
Corner OF
Yadi’s replacement

**BigRedChief** · 04-23-2021, 11:09 PM

Sucked since 2019, 2020, spring training, worst BA in Major League Baseball but you still don’t change a damn thing? No change in approach? That’s some real stubborn hard head BS.
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“With the outfield coming back, you could see limited at-bats (for Carpenter) moving forward,” Mozeliak said. “I don’t think that’s a line that we have to cross today. Over the next seven to 14 days, it is going to have a way of playing itself out. You are trying to give someone an opportunity to get going. But as players become healthy and get back active on this roster, those at-bats are going to be more difficult to find if production isn’t there.”

If Mozeliak had not crossed a line, he sounded at its edge and leaning over it.

He described the searching Carpenter as “wedded” to one version of his swing and connected dots between the hitter’s usual approach against the shift — continuing to hit into it while trying to hit over it — as the definition of insanity. He absolved Cardinals hitting coaches from the conversation when asked if they should be helping Carpenter make changes. And then, after suggesting multiple times that Carpenter diversify his game, Mozeliak found himself hinting there is no guarantee attempted changes would work.

Through a series of questions and answers Mozeliak painted the picture baseball is seeing more and more these days, one of a left-handed pull hitter with power who has been disarmed and deflated by extreme defensive shifts they either cannot or will not shake.

“Look, you can only build a line of reasoning for so long,” Mozeliak said. “At some point in this game you are truly measured on what you do. There is that old saying. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But if something isn’t working, maybe you need to try to make some adjustments. I do appreciate the fact he is making hard contact. I do appreciate the fact he’s trying to remain positive in this. But, to some level, you’ve got to see production out of that. And so, hopefully his fortunes change, because it would help our lineup, and help our team. But, you know, at some point it’s going to be hard to be doing the same thing over and over again.”

04-01-2021, 04:15 PM	#1
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04-08-2021, 06:22 PM	#4
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04-23-2021, 11:09 PM	#15
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2949627 VARSITY	Sucked since 2019, 2020, spring training, worst BA in Major League Baseball but you still don’t change a damn thing? No change in approach? That’s some real stubborn hard head BS. ——————————————————— “With the outfield coming back, you could see limited at-bats (for Carpenter) moving forward,” Mozeliak said. “I don’t think that’s a line that we have to cross today. Over the next seven to 14 days, it is going to have a way of playing itself out. You are trying to give someone an opportunity to get going. But as players become healthy and get back active on this roster, those at-bats are going to be more difficult to find if production isn’t there.” If Mozeliak had not crossed a line, he sounded at its edge and leaning over it. He described the searching Carpenter as “wedded” to one version of his swing and connected dots between the hitter’s usual approach against the shift — continuing to hit into it while trying to hit over it — as the definition of insanity. He absolved Cardinals hitting coaches from the conversation when asked if they should be helping Carpenter make changes. And then, after suggesting multiple times that Carpenter diversify his game, Mozeliak found himself hinting there is no guarantee attempted changes would work. Through a series of questions and answers Mozeliak painted the picture baseball is seeing more and more these days, one of a left-handed pull hitter with power who has been disarmed and deflated by extreme defensive shifts they either cannot or will not shake. “Look, you can only build a line of reasoning for so long,” Mozeliak said. “At some point in this game you are truly measured on what you do. There is that old saying. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But if something isn’t working, maybe you need to try to make some adjustments. I do appreciate the fact he is making hard contact. I do appreciate the fact he’s trying to remain positive in this. But, to some level, you’ve got to see production out of that. And so, hopefully his fortunes change, because it would help our lineup, and help our team. But, you know, at some point it’s going to be hard to be doing the same thing over and over again.” __________________ Time is worth more than money.
Posts: 79,179