Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The other thing is their DL is athletic but is very light....

Nick Bosa comes in at nearly 270 at end so he's about the only one that you go ok he's big for his position, look at the rest..

Armstead is 6'8 280
Buckner 6'7 280
Thomas 6'3 280
Ford is like 240

That is extremely light especially at the DT position, those are some long lanky dudes to be playing in the middle honestly.

The height is scary with Buckner and Armstead. Would think they are pretty damn good at batting the ball or at least disrupting the QB’s throwing lane.

[The Franchise]

The problem with Green Bay is that they were a suspect playoff team. They played down to a bunch of teams this season and they got lucky that Seattle was stupid and refused to let Wilson take over the game until it was too late.

For all the shit that the 49ers fans want to give us for having to play the Texans and Titans.....they didn’t play any world beaters in the Vikings and Packers.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Picking up that flag was even more egregious- we were on the verge of blowing them out at that point. Score there and the game is over, well before the fumble.

Yeah that was definitely a bad one. My point was more directed at things the Chiefs can control. You can’t really do anything about shit officiating. You can control turnovers though.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DRM08

The height is scary with Buckner and Armstead. Would think they are pretty damn good at batting the ball or at least disrupting the QB’s throwing lane.

Luckily our QB is the best in the world at adjusting arm angles to throw around guys like that.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DRM08

The height is scary with Buckner and Armstead. Would think they are pretty damn good at batting the ball or at least disrupting the QB’s throwing lane.

It’s a good thing that our QB can adjust his throwing angle to get around those guys.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DRM08

The height is scary with Buckner and Armstead. Would think they are pretty damn good at batting the ball or at least disrupting the QB’s throwing lane.

Mahomes has such a knack for changing his arm angles to prevent that, though...

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

It’s a good thing that our QB can adjust his throwing angle to get around those guys.

Great minds think alike

[Mecca]

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[smithandrew051]

Haha literally the same comment 3 straight times

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Haha literally the same comment 3 straight times

I know and I was the slowest one to the take. I'm getting old.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

It’s a good thing that our QB can adjust his throwing angle to get around those guys.

That’s true. You can tell the Niners drafted these guys to give shorty Russell Wilson a hard time. Good strategy. But also creates plenty of challenge for taller QBs as well.

[wachashi]

This offense was never really stopped when fully healthy, but what caused this offense the most problems throughout the season? Defenders jamming our receivers at the line of scrimmage. It disrupted the timing of our routes, and this offense is built around timing. That oftentimes forced Mahomes to leave the pocket and wait for something off-script to develop. I really don't think the Niners have the horses in the secondary to play press man and jam our receivers up like that consistently. The Patriots were able deploy that strategy because they've got the players to do it. Is there a player on this 49er secondary that would start for the Patriots defense? Sherman's a system CB. He wouldn't cut it in NE.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by wachashi

This offense was never really stopped when fully healthy, but what caused this offense the most problems throughout the season? Defenders jamming our receivers at the line of scrimmage. It disrupted the timing of our routes, and this offense is built around timing. That oftentimes forced Mahomes to leave the pocket and wait for something off-script to develop. I really don't think the Niners have the horses in the secondary to play press man and jam our receivers up like that consistently. The Patriots were able deploy that strategy because they've got the players to do it. Is there a player on this 49er secondary that would start for the Patriots defense? Sherman's a system CB. He wouldn't cut it in NE.

The better comparison point might be the Lions. They did a very good job and they had quite a few backups playing in the secondary. Of course, they were aided by a missing Tyreek Hill.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The 49ers have a big choice to make. Are they going to treat every down like a passing down and get Ford on the field, to maximize the effectiveness of their pass rush? And if so, how are they going to handle how easily he can be exploited in the run game?

On the other side of the coin, exploiting Dee Ford means running the ball as the 1st option, and that is taking the ball out of Mahomes' hands.

[Mecca]

Ok lets get very real here about the 49ers defense....they didn't face many good passing offenses this year but lets look at some of these point totals...

Early in the year they catch the Rams off guard and win 20-7...second meeting they give up 31 points.

In 2 meetings with the Cards they give up 25 and 26 points.

46 to the Saints..29 to Atlanta.....27 and 21 to Seattle who doesn't really have many weapons...

This defense isn't great and when they face teams with real weapons they tend to get beat.