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Old 08-31-2009, 10:29 PM  
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Overall Evaluation of our 2009 Draft picks.
Jackson seems to be the real deal. How about the rest of our picks?

I would love to hear what our insightful posters takes are.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:47 PM   #61
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I get that, and I'm pretty sure that I've been more impressed with Brown at guard than anyone here.

But the fact remains, they selected a RT, and Meredith has/had better potential to succeed at RT than Brown.
Did Pioli or Haley say they drafted Brown to specifically be a RT? They could have drafted him as an o line prospect in general instead of just a RT prospect.


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Old 09-02-2009, 03:50 PM   #62
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Did Pioli or Haley say they drafted Brown to specifically be a RT? They could have drafted him as an o line prospect in general instead of just a RT prospect.


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Let me disagree with my friend milkman and state for the record that I believe Colin Brown has absolutely no future as an NFL interior OL. He lacks the power and base to succeed there. He is just too high, center of gravity-wise.

Colin Brown was Pioli's best ORT at the pick he was taken. Why Pioli didn't like Meredith is something only Pioli knows. Pioli certainly did know who Meredith was.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:51 PM   #63
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Did Pioli or Haley say they drafted Brown to specifically be a RT? They could have drafted him as an o line prospect in general instead of just a RT prospect.


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No they didn't.

I'm making assumptions based on observations from OTAs and camp.

Theye worked him exclusively at RT until the second week of camp before he was moved to guard, and since has worked exclusively at guard.

That strongly suggests he was drafted at RT.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:54 PM   #64
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Let me disagree with my friend milkman and state for the record that I believe Colin Brown has absolutely no future as an NFL interior OL. He lacks the power and base to succeed there. He is just too high, center of gravity-wise.

Colin Brown was Pioli's best ORT at the pick he was taken. Why Pioli didn't like Meredith is something only Pioli knows. Pioli certainly did know who Meredith was.
He is,in theory too high, but he hasn't played nearly as tall as he is.

His play at RG in the first two preseason games was remarkably impressive.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:54 PM   #65
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There were better choices to be made.

There was no reason to spend the Chiefs first two draft choices on the same position, especially when they signed a $63 million dollar QB that needed protection.

Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee protect no one. And certainly not anyone worth $63 million.

Donald Washington? What, Flowers, Carr and Leggett weren't already on the roster? And Colin Brown over Jamon Meredith?

Face it: There was a gross misjudgment of talent, both on the Chiefs existing roster and in the 2009 NFL Draft.
Yeah, Pioli & Haley don't know $hit about football. They should be fired immediately!
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:56 PM   #66
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Someone, I want to say it was Dane but I'm not sure, after the dragt happened had some good insight. Whomever made the comment noted that the picks weren't "Pioli type picks". The picks were all physical specimens. Especially after the 2 DEs. The poster then went on to suggest that since Pioli was late to the game and had to use the in-house scouts (you'll remember they got promptly SHITCANNED) that he chose the guys with the greatest upside.

Valid point of discussion. We have no way of knowing, but it is a good possibility.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:04 PM   #67
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Meredith ended up in Green Bay who has a really nice history of building OL's out of the first round.
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Yeah, Pioli & Haley don't know $hit about football. They should be fired immediately!
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I really enjoy these leaps of Piologic.
I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

Our forum is turning into the coalition or WPI.
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Not sure what you mean. Hopefully, your sarcasm meter is working.
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Not sure what you mean. Hopefully, your sarcasm meter is working.
I believe it is and he's calling you out for your exceptionally shallow opinion.

Just because Pioli and Haley think something, that doesn't make it right. Nor does it mean that anyone that opposes them is incorrect.

You just dropped the ultimate in Bush-league, copout responses.
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I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

Our forum is turning into the coalition or WPI.
Dude, NO team has exclusively smart fans. 99% of fans are go-tards.
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Sure, and for the most part this board was fine for awhile but this offseason turned us into 90% coalition where no one wants to express an opinion that isn't positive and even people who disagree saying things like "I'll default to Pioli"
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I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

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First off, this thread is silly: it's WAY too early to evaluate this draft.

What I don't get is how someone can post "Face it: There was a gross misjudgment of talent, both on the Chiefs existing roster and in the 2009 NFL Draft." If you're a Chiefs' fan, why post negative crap on something like this? There's other legit things to bitch about. Whatever. It's obvious that the "glass is half empty" crowd is here to stay.
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First off, this thread is silly: it's WAY too early to evaluate this draft.

What I don't get is how someone can post "Face it: There was a gross misjudgment of talent, both on the Chiefs existing roster and in the 2009 NFL Draft." If you're a Chiefs' fan, why post negative crap on something like this? There's other legit things to bitch about. Whatever. It's obvious that the "glass is half empty" crowd is here to stay.
The premise of the thread is stupid, but um dude when the team is coming off a 2-14 season fans have a right to be negative.
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