***Official 2022 Royals Season Repository Thread***

[ChiefsCountry]

For all things Royals in 2022. #3 minor league system according to Baseball America. The Bobby Witt era should begin this year. Will Salvy still be the homerun king? How does the glut of infield players work out? Will the young pitchers take the next step?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Zack Greinke, P
Amir Garrett, P
Taylor Clarke, P

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Bobby Witt, SS
2. Asa Lacy, P
3. MJ Melendez, C
4. Nick Pratto, 1B
5. Jackson Kowar, P
6. Kyle Isabel, OF
7. Frank Mozzicato, P
8. Ben Kudrna, P
9. Jonathan Bowlan, P
10. Vinnie Pasquantino, 1B

Duncan's Top Royals Prospects

Spoiler!

1. Bobby Witt, Jr., SS. MLB.
This status lasts about another 4 weeks, but let’s take a moment to appreciate having the top guy in the minor league prospects lists for at least a little while longer. Witt has prodigious ability and the question is really just IF he can meet it. They have not had a prospect like this in my lifetime, and really probably ever. Combine insane raw physical skills (right there with Adalberto Mondesi and Willie Wilson in the ranks right behind Bo Jackson) with unbelievable work ethic, a humble-but-confident nature, and already having shown he can struggle and overcome to achieve big success, and you have the tools for a show-stopping centerpiece. Oh, and throw in the former-player’s kid aspect on it on top of things, and there is every reason to believe he’s going to succeed and succeed big.
2. M.J. Melendez, C, AAA Omaha.
I was early on putting him in this slot last year, and I don’t regret it. The power, the ability to be a good defender behind the dish as well as having the athletic ability to play 3B or LF, too, and you have a really valuable overall piece and FANTASTIC understudy for Salvador Perez.
3. Asa Lacy, LHP. AA Northwest Arkansas
Whoa, let’s get crazy again. Lacy has outstanding stuff. Top of the system. He got hurt and lost his command during COVID times, but appears to be back on track so far this spring. If his command sticks, this is a guy who can move quickly. And his ceiling is really second to nobody in the minor league pitching ranks.
4. Vinnie Pasquantino, 1B. AA Northwest Arkansas
Vinnie starts the season back at AA due to the guy who follows him on the list here. He just hits, folks. I love his combination of contact, loud contact, plate discipline, and lack of strikeouts. The Billy Butler comparisons are annoying (in that I will NEVER refer to this man as Italian Breakfast except in the instance that just occurred), but the Billy Butler comparisons are also fairly apt… if you made Butler a lefthanded hitter, AND improved his body/athleticism from a 20 to a 40, AND if you added that little extra touch of power we all wished Butler could consistently find.
5. Nick Pratto, 1B, AAA Omaha.
Hey, let’s stay at 1B. Pratto has flashy power and I love his batting eye AND his hand-eye coordination. The hair he’s been rocking this spring is also pretty sweet. I slot him just behind Pasquantino simply because I think his bat profile is more volatile. The glove and arm are sweet/plus for 1B, though.
6. Jonathan Bowlan, RHP, AAA Omaha
Bowlan is coming back from Tommy John surgery, and this ranking is assuming that recovering is successful. If it his, you’re talking about a big, consistent SP who throws hard enough and has enough of a repertoire to really make things happen. If the recovery goes well, he may be shuttling to the majors in July to reinforce the rotation.
7. Nick Loftin, CF, AA Omaha.
Loftin is a guy who has really grown on me. I saw him as a quasi super-utility guy when the Royals drafted him, The full-time shift to CF (which means they think he has the speed and the overall defensive ability to handle CF in Kansas City) adds a lot of value here. The ultimate positive offensive upside is similar to peak Whit Merrifield, maybe with a touch more early power.
8. Michael Massey, 2B, AA Northwest Arkansas.
Massey was an absolute revelation last year, hitting for power and average and keeping his K rate down while playing a really strong 2B. He has a very sweet, short lefthanded stroke. This is another aggressive rating, but Massey has proven himself through a tough minor league assignment already, and the arrow is pointed up.
9. Ben Kudrna, RHP, Rookie Ball
Kudrna is a big, physical specimen with a lot of upside and potential. The fastball and slider are already nearly MLB-level in terms of velocity and movement (command needs work). Kudrna is a guy who, with luck, and health, and good development, could ascend to the top of a rotation.
10. Frank Mozzicato, LHP, Rookie Ball.
Mozzicato has a curveball that suggests he has a feel for spin. If you want to dream, you hope that the next 2-3 years turn the 175 he weighed when drafted into a rock-solid 220/225 and carries with it an increase in fastball velocity from 90-91, sitting 87-88, to 96-97, sitting 93-94. You pair his ability to spin the ball (which also suggests he should be able to easily master a sweeper slider) with that type of fastball velo and a changeup he already has a feel for, and it’s an exciting profile.

He has a little more to go in terms of growing into that projectability than Kudrna, which is why he slots right behind him.
11. Alec Marsh, RHP, AA Northwest Arkansas
Marsh missed a lot of 2021 to injury, but the hard-throwing righthander is another guy who could move quickly once the minor league season starts. He’s undeniably got the stuff of a quality major-league pitcher. The question is if he can master enough command to cash it in. This guy is a great example of TINSTAAPP.
12. Angel Zerpa, LHP, AAA Omaha
Zerpa might quickly outperform this slot. His stuff ticked up in 21 and he ended the season making a start in the majors. He’s nice depth to have, and honestly, I’m a big fan of just throwing numbers at pitching. Zerpa definitely helps create the depth you need to generate a top-notch and reliable home-grown rotation.
13. Maikel Garcia, SS, AA Northwest Arkansas
Garcia is a really intriguing hitter, a righthanded hitter who has a nice combination of contact skills and control of the strike zone (this cousin of Alcides Escobar is less savvy with the glove and more savvy at the plate). The Royals protected him for a reason (he’s on the 40-man).
14. Carter Jensen, C, A ??
Jensen is a local product whose bat will probably push him off C (as well as the Royals depth at that spot throughout the organization). This is a future 1B profile, and a nice one. He makes a lot of loud contact and shows an ability to lift the ball. Should be fun to watch this year.
15. Ben Hernandez, RHP, A+ Quad Rivers
Hernandez missed a good part of 2021 but still has that butterfly changeup and a classic pitcher’s profile. He’ll need to find a reliable swing-and-miss secondary to make it in the bigs, but if not, the fastball velocity and changeup should make him a quality high-leverage reliver.
16. Dylan Coleman, RHP, AAA Omaha
Speaking of relievers, Coleman is a hard-throwing righthander who probably spends most of 22 in the Royals’ pen. ½ of the compensation for the Rosenthal trade a few years back, Coleman has a big fastball and nasty breaking ball.
17. Will Klein, RHP, AA Northwest Arkansas
Speaking of relivers, everything I just said about Coleman? Yeah, you can say it about Klein, too. Klein regularly toyed with hitters at high A last year, striking out 121 hitters in just 70 1/3 innings pitched. For those counting at home, that’s a 15.5 K/9 rate. Yep. That’ll play.
18. Anthony Veneziano, LHP, AA Northwest Arkansas
Here’s another big, power arm. Veneziano hasn’t been relegated to bullpen only yet, though. His fastball bumped into the high 90s last year on a starter’s workload. He’s still looking for a changeup, but if he doesn’t find it, you’re looking at a really promising future bullpen fireballer.
19. Erick Pena, OF, A ?
Pena did… not have a strong 2021 full season debut. His struggles look a lot like those of Pratto and Melendez in 2019. Pena has the same type of raw toolkit to work from as those two, with great hands and natural power. He needs to fix a hitch in his swing and calm it down, but so did Melendez. Of this second ten grouping, Pena has the highest upside and could jump right into the top 5 of the org ranks.
20. Darryl Collins, OF, A+
Collins is an international signing out of Europe. I like the hitting package here – good eye and contact skills. He needs to make more loud contact, but if he can, really a nice guy.

Overall takeaways:
This is a system with a lot of depth. We could go another 10-12 deep and still be talking about guys with a good shot to make the majors. The changes to the organization’s approach are bearing fruit, as even less-heralded draftees are stepping forward.

The combination of upside (Witt, Melendez, Lacy), depth, and guys you can dream on is fun. It may not produce quite as much as the 2011 group did, but it does offer a more sustainable system, less reliant on a few big-ticket guys.

[dlphg9]

I get that he was GM when we won the WS, but the fact that we haven't been even close to competitive for a long time and most of his time here is reason to fire him. All kinds of other small markets are competitive.

It doesn't have to be one way or the other. You don't have to either win a WS every 10+ years and have shit teams otherwise or be relevant every year, but not win a WS.

Dayton got lucky by winning in one of the 2 playoff years, but that doesn't mean we can't be competitive in the other years.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I get that he was GM when we won the WS, but the fact that we haven't been even close to competitive for a long time and most of his time here is reason to fire him. All kinds of other small markets are competitive.

It doesn't have to be one way or the other. You don't have to either win a WS every 10+ years and have shit teams otherwise or be relevant every year, but not win a WS.

Dayton got lucky by winning in one of the 2 playoff years, but that doesn't mean we can't be competitive in the other years.

You don't get ****ing lucky in going to back to back World Series. You dumb ****ers who keep saying that are ****ing reeruns.

[tk13]

I hit my 100th career minor league home run tonight. Pretty cool that me and Albert can share this historic occasion.

— Brent Rooker (@Brent_Rooker12) September 24, 2022

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You don't get ****ing lucky in going to back to back World Series. You dumb ****ers who keep saying that are ****ing reeruns.

It's absolutely luck. There's always luck involved you dumb mother****er. Look at the career years he got from multiple shit players. You don't just go from being shit at trades and free agent pickups to hitting on everything for a few years and then back to being garbage at it.

Without the bullpen we had, then we don't go to the WS. That was lucky to assemble all those guys, but he's been trash at it for most of his time here.

[tk13]

I actually don't think Dayton was ever that bad at trades. People get on him for that and I don't get it. His free agent moves usually weren't great but that's not unusual. He nailed the Greinke trade. That was a franchise altering trade and look at how many GMs trade a cornerstone player like that and get squat out of it. He did a great job in the Wil Myers trade and people killed him for that at the time. The Jeremy Guthrie trade was a winner. Same with Nori Aoki. Then the championship years he made good trades. The Josh Willingham trade wasn't amazing but he won that trade just off the fact that Willingham started the rally that tied the game in the 9th of the wild card game. Then obviously the Cueto and Zobrist trades were great the next year.

The Cahill trade in 2017 was one of the few he bombed but it at least made sense. The Wade Davis trade hurt too but Soler obviously had the talent, first Royal to ever lead the league in HRs and ended up being World Series MVP a few years later. The trade market isn't what it used to be though and I think in recent years it made him a bit gunshy because you just don't get the prospects you used to unless you have a young guy under a ton of control.

[KChiefs1]

I just hope the team becomes more transactional now.


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[tk13]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I just hope the team becomes more transactional now.


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Sherman said it a bunch of times during the press conference, so I'm sure they will. He obviously wants to see the team be more like Cleveland or Tampa, although I understand Dayton's thought that KC is a unique market who gets really tied to players. From that end, the connection the city has to the 2015 team will never be topped probably just because of how that team stuck together. But if you win that's what's going to draw people in no matter what.

But it was weird because I really don't think Dayton got straight up fleeced too many times in trades. What killed him was not drafting and developing players once they put a cap on how much you could spend in the draft, and making bad free agent signings like Ian Kennedy. What really happened is Dayton did a better job than anyone at exploiting the loopholes in the draft and when that went away it was never the same.

That's why it really wasn't luck. Remember a couple years before the World Series teams all the experts were wondering if the Royals had built the best farm system of all time. It's like everyone has forgotten that, especially some of the national writers.

[bringbackmarty]

Went to the game tonight, stayed for the fireworks. I genuinely had a great time tonight and can't complain. One of the best nights at k in a long time for me. Singer is only going to get better, young blood is doing just fine. They are playing with more fire and you can tell it's fun for them. Metheny still has to go along with a few others - Vance Wilson, looking at you bro, suck it in or get a gastric bypass.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by tk13

I hit my 100th career minor league home run tonight. Pretty cool that me and Albert can share this historic occasion.

— Brent Rooker (@Brent_Rooker12) September 24, 2022

This is so sad

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by tk13

Sherman said it a bunch of times during the press conference, so I'm sure they will. He obviously wants to see the team be more like Cleveland or Tampa, although I understand Dayton's thought that KC is a unique market who gets really tied to players. From that end, the connection the city has to the 2015 team will never be topped probably just because of how that team stuck together. But if you win that's what's going to draw people in no matter what.

But it was weird because I really don't think Dayton got straight up fleeced too many times in trades. What killed him was not drafting and developing players once they put a cap on how much you could spend in the draft, and making bad free agent signings like Ian Kennedy. What really happened is Dayton did a better job than anyone at exploiting the loopholes in the draft and when that went away it was never the same.

That's why it really wasn't luck. Remember a couple years before the World Series teams all the experts were wondering if the Royals had built the best farm system of all time. It's like everyone has forgotten that, especially some of the national writers.

I think we've drafted fine. Not perfect. But fine. We have "guys" that most of the industry writers that aren't hacks believe should be quality major leaguers. We have NOT developed the fringe arms that other orgs seem to do. Thas said, this is all really simple - In rebuild II, Dayton:

1. Hired the wrong MLB manager to replace Yost.
2. Never applied a rebuild of pitching development to match hitting development.

If he gets either of the above correct...even if not perfect...we aren't even having any of these discussions. We'd likely be watching the wild card standings each day.

And the "luck" argument that keeps creeping up is a garbage BS argument by chicken-little arm-chair GM's that know very little about baseball. But stupid people and narratives persist.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by tk13

Sherman said it a bunch of times during the press conference, so I'm sure they will. He obviously wants to see the team be more like Cleveland or Tampa, although I understand Dayton's thought that KC is a unique market who gets really tied to players. From that end, the connection the city has to the 2015 team will never be topped probably just because of how that team stuck together. But if you win that's what's going to draw people in no matter what.

But it was weird because I really don't think Dayton got straight up fleeced too many times in trades. What killed him was not drafting and developing players once they put a cap on how much you could spend in the draft, and making bad free agent signings like Ian Kennedy. What really happened is Dayton did a better job than anyone at exploiting the loopholes in the draft and when that went away it was never the same.

That's why it really wasn't luck. Remember a couple years before the World Series teams all the experts were wondering if the Royals had built the best farm system of all time. It's like everyone has forgotten that, especially some of the national writers.

Best farm system in baseball doesn't mean world series in your near future.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

I think we've drafted fine. Not perfect. But fine. We have "guys" that most of the industry writers that aren't hacks believe should be quality major leaguers. We have NOT developed the fringe arms that other orgs seem to do. Thas said, this is all really simple - In rebuild II, Dayton:

1. Hired the wrong MLB manager to replace Yost.
2. Never applied a rebuild of pitching development to match hitting development.

If he gets either of the above correct...even if not perfect...we aren't even having any of these discussions. We'd likely be watching the wild card standings each day.

And the "luck" argument that keeps creeping up is a garbage BS argument by chicken-little arm-chair GM's that know very little about baseball. But stupid people and narratives persist.

We haven't developed any arms.

Explain how luck wasn't involved.

[nychief]

Is JJ still GM or is he Prez of Baseball Ops and will hire or promote a GM? I can't seem to get clarity on this.

[SithCeNtZ]

Originally Posted by tk13

Sherman said it a bunch of times during the press conference, so I'm sure they will. He obviously wants to see the team be more like Cleveland or Tampa, although I understand Dayton's thought that KC is a unique market who gets really tied to players. From that end, the connection the city has to the 2015 team will never be topped probably just because of how that team stuck together. But if you win that's what's going to draw people in no matter what.

But it was weird because I really don't think Dayton got straight up fleeced too many times in trades. What killed him was not drafting and developing players once they put a cap on how much you could spend in the draft, and making bad free agent signings like Ian Kennedy. What really happened is Dayton did a better job than anyone at exploiting the loopholes in the draft and when that went away it was never the same.

That's why it really wasn't luck. Remember a couple years before the World Series teams all the experts were wondering if the Royals had built the best farm system of all time. It's like everyone has forgotten that, especially some of the national writers.

I’ve seen this mentioned now several times, but the limiting of signing guys in the draft had basically nothing to do with our run of success outside of one single guy who didn’t even play for us: will Myers. That’s it. Moore was not some master draft guru who was playing 4d chess and then had some big advantage removed. The biggest prospects we had in the “best minor league system ever” were 2 top 5 picks(moose and hoss), myers, and a fourth rounder named Jon lamb who we signed in the fourth round for 165k signing bonus, hardly some big over pay. The others were another top pick(Colon), and two guys we got in the greinke deal(odorizzi and jefferes). All this says is that if we pick in the top 5 3 consecutive years and have a cy young winner we can trade to bolster the system then we would be in pretty good shape. Oh and two other huge pieces in our title run were international signings, not draft picks(Ventura and salvy). None of this has anything to do with draft caps being implemented except for myers, who didn’t even turn into anything great. All of the other guys were logical picks who went right where they were supposed to.

The fact of the matter is Moore has generally been a horrendous drafter on both sides of the ball, both before and after the draft changed. The pitching struggles are well known, but he hasn’t been much better on the hitting side either. It’s not an exaggeration to say that literally anyone on this board could have made the first round picks(and frankly on blind luck the rest of the draft) for the royals for the last 16 years and not done worse. Hitting on moose and hoss and probably Witt Jr is hardly some amazing feat of drafting when obvious top picks are taken at obvious times. That isn’t abusing draft loopholes, that’s doing the bare minimum of your job. And for every mid first or comp pick he has sort of hit on(singer manaea) he has busted 10 others who never even made the majors(does anyone honestly remember chase Vallot? I don’t) or were out in 3 years. That’s why he was fired, plain and simple. If the next guy drafts and develops guys as badly as Moore did then he will be out too.

[Sure-Oz]

Great to see Singer just looking like a high end #2 now. Royals have one good starter finally