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Old 10-09-2018, 06:39 PM   #1
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Come on Veach, make a move for somebody. Zombo doesn't count. He is not making a move. He desperation.
I'll be glad to sent Veach & the Hunt family $25 each if the FO can land a decent FS. I've said it here before, but I would love to see Antoine Bethea in a Chiefs' uni. He's older by football standards, but shows no sign of slowing down at 34. He has 35 tackles thru 5 games...only 1 less than the team leader.

He has 2 years left on a very reasonable contract. Cards just restructured his deal to give an extension to David Johnson. Would only cost the Chiefs 11/16 of his new base of $1,492,500 for 2018. Same base for next year. He's better than any active safety we have on the roster. And you just know he'd LOVE to come play for a winner. At 1-4, wouldn't the Cards like to get a draft pick for a guy that won't be playing when they finally get it together?

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Old 10-09-2018, 05:52 PM   #2
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I'm not as freaked out about Zombo. He's not a particularly good olb. But we've played lots of stretches with him and managed to play at least mediocre. I think people are really overestimating how much better some scrub off the street will do vs him. We've brought in a lot of scrubs and he's been better than them, for what it's worth.
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I'd like to know where you guys are going to get the magical cap dollars to pull all this off?

Magical cap dollars sound great.

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Old 10-09-2018, 06:46 PM   #4
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I'd like to know where you guys are going to get the magical cap dollars to pull all this off?

Magical cap dollars sound great.

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The cap isn't, and never was, an actual barrier to signing players. It makes for a good cover for teams trying to convince fans they "tried".
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:48 PM   #5
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The cap isn't, and never was, an actual barrier to signing players. It makes for a good cover for teams trying to convince fans they "tried".
So why is it called a " Cap "?
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:50 PM   #6
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The cap isn't, and never was, an actual barrier to signing players. It makes for a good cover for teams trying to convince fans they "tried".
Okay ... fair enough.

So, where do we get the money? I'm not being belligerent or argumentative, just forthrightly ignorant.

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Okay ... fair enough.

So, where do we get the money? I'm not being belligerent or argumentative, just forthrightly ignorant.

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I am interested in whom we should acquire and at what price? Stopgaps are expensive and hard to come by this time of year.
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I am interested in whom we should acquire and at what price? Stopgaps are expensive and hard to come by this time of year.
So far I think they're talking about signing an OLB or two and a couple of safeties. Looking at the Cards for starters. I think that's where we are.

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No big deal. This ain't the year we're going to push for the super bowl and win. There's too many holes on defense. Has been from the start of the year.
All Zombo is is a warm body for an empty spot.

Next year, after the draft and free agency, that's when I'll be worried if Zombo is still here.

Everybody seems to be getting all wound over this as if the Chiefs are all in this year and this year is it! This was never the case. We all knew the defense was not up to snuff this year.
Why not?

How much better can we realistically expect this D to be next season?
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:54 PM   #10
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Actually, that might be the most painless part for the Chiefs. With all the wiggle-room built into the process, the cap is easily manipulated. Right now the Chiefs have a formal Cap Space of $5,856,396. That would more than cover someone like Antoine Bethea (FS), if the Cards are willing to trade. Players get restructured all the time. It can often be as easy as converting some salary to bonus. Player gets the money sooner and the team gets added cap space. I won't pretend to know all the arcane intricacies of the NFL salary cap. But I do know that teams manipulate the numbers quite frequently to make room for a new signing or extension.
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Actually, that might be the most painless part for the Chiefs. With all the wiggle-room built into the process, the cap is easily manipulated. Right now the Chiefs have a formal Cap Space of $5,856,396. That would more than cover someone like Antoine Bethea (FS), if the Cards are willing to trade. Players get restructured all the time. It can often be as easy as converting some salary to bonus. Player gets the money sooner and the team gets added cap space. I won't pretend to know all the arcane intricacies of the NFL salary cap. But I do know that teams manipulate the numbers quite frequently to make room for a new signing or extension.
OK ... I can relate, man. Restructure who, exactly? (Again, not trying to be an ass here ... just honestly curious and awash with wonderment.)

EB? Fiddy? LTD? All of them?

If you're going to enact a trade, you also need trading capital. That's picks, right? Are we seriously going all in with picks and found money (via restructuring) this year? We have The Human Trebuchet on rookie dollars for a whole bunch of years here.

Keep in mind, we need to sign Hill and Conley (I hope) and a few other guys like #95.

I'm all for it ... if we can figure out a way to do it ... just having trouble with that last part.

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OK ... I can relate, man. Restructure who, exactly? (Again, not trying to be an ass here ... just honestly curious and awash with wonderment.) EB? Fiddy? LTD? All of them? If you're going to enact a trade, you also need trading capital. That's picks, right? Are we seriously going all in with picks and found money (via restructuring) this year? We have The Human Trebuchet on rookie dollars for a whole bunch of years here.Keep in mind, we need to sign Hill and Conley (I hope) and a few other guys like #95. I'm all for it ... if we can figure out a way to do it ... just having trouble with that last part.
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Those are valid questions/concerns. We do have a few key players to resign, as you said. But the Chiefs (as of current numbers) are going to eliminate over $18M in dead money in 2019. That includes dead money we're still paying for A.Smith, J.Maclin, D.Johnson, T.Hali, M.Peters, J.Reid, D.Amerson, C.West, et al. That should go a long way towards eliminating most cap issues for next year.

For right now, they could get by with little to no restructuring of current contracts... unless they go out and get a marquee, high-priced player. But someone like D.Ford would be a good candidate. He's making $8.7M in base salary. That could be converted to a bonus and the cap would jump up considerable. Houston, Fisher, Berry, Kelce are the highest paid players left, but I'm not sure how their contracts would be redone to gain cap space.
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Look at the eagles this year or various other teams

It’s hard to do it year in and out

When you have a chance you’ve gotta go for it
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