ROMO gets his $$$

[ChiefsCountry]

Can we have Romo play the regular season and let Sanchez take over for the playoffs?

[Hootie]

I'm just flat out convinced...

when it comes to QB's, this board is just ****ing reeruned. It's to the point that since 95% of this board wants Geno, and me not knowing a whole lot about Geno, I'm pretty much convinced he's going to flat out blow because each time one of these "debates" (and I'm going to use that loosely because no one really debates any of my points they just scream choker and act like they made a point) pops up I just am totally baffled by how ****ing stupid people are on this board.

In conclusion, draft Joeckel. (Ok I retract that one).

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I'm just flat out convinced...

when it comes to QB's, this board is just ****ing reeruned. It's to the point that since 95% of this board wants Geno, and me not knowing a whole lot about Geno, I'm pretty much convinced he's going to flat out blow because each time one of these "debates" (and I'm going to use that loosely because no one really debates any of my points they just scream choker and act like they made a point) pops up I just am totally baffled by how ****ing stupid people are on this board.

In conclusion, draft Joeckel. (Ok I retract that one).

Yes, Hootie. You know it all.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Dave

Yes, Hootie. You know it all.

compared to you, on the topic of QB's...

yes, yes I do

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

compared to you, on the topic of QB's...

yes, yes I do

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[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

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[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

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I agree.

I was 100% about Damon Huard. Search the posts.

My argument, from the get go, was Damon Huard was the best QB for that Kansas City Chiefs team. And he was. Trent wasn't a good QB behind that offensive line. Trent held the ball too long. Trent didn't like to force throws to Tony Gonzalez and Dwayne Bowe like Huard. My thought process was Trent was too good to play for that shit team. Trent wanted to make the right read and throw on a team where the only read and throw was to Tony or Dwayne because the line afforded the QB almost no time to throw the ball.

Hence the reason we had more success with Damon opposed to Trent.

Oh and we traded Trent after that season. And Trent never did anything again. And Trent couldn't get a first down for 40+ minutes in the playoffs.

I mean, my ****ing Christ man...if you want to chastise me, at least don't pick topics that I was right about when the rest of the board was wrong.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

compared to you, on the topic of QB's...

yes, yes I do

Then explain the logic of taking a 33 yr old QB with a lousy history in the postseason over a 28 yr old's that is pretty ****ing good?

Success is measured in the NFL by winning in the postseason. That includes winning SBs.

[BlackHelicopters]

Flacco has one a Super Bowl. Romo has not.

[Hootie]

and that's Romo's biggest challenge right now, and especially the last few years...

He has no support. He constantly has to score points. His defense bends and breaks. He always, always, always has to make big plays...and he presses. When he presses, sometimes he makes that terrible Romo play that everyone seems to think he makes 15 per game or something.

Look, I always thought Brett Favre was overrated. I thought he had a great 3 year stretch in the late 90s and after that some of his INT's were so ridiculous that he just simply couldn't be considered the best QB in the NFL. Now, I always thought he was somewhere between #5 and #10 and the Vikings year he impressed the hell out of me. I respected his toughness, his legendary velocity, and the fact he always went down swinging (when he went down)...

But Romo has a lot of Favre in him. That's good and bad. He makes plays no one else could make, or would try making...which leads to those "wtf Romo?" passes. Just like Favre.

If you put Tony Romo on the 49ers next year they'd win 13 games and be in the Super Bowl. Same with the Seahawks. Same with a lot of teams.

One ****ing player doesn't win you a Super Bowl. One ****ing player on the worst ran organization in football with a "GM" who isn't qualified doesn't win a Super Bowl.

We all blamed Pioli for sucking. Understandable. Made sense.

But why does Dallas get to blame Romo when the GM consistently makes poor personnel decisions?

The only thing Dallas has going for them is Romo, and maybe Romo piping into some of that unbelievable potential Dez Bryant has, and displayed, for the second half of last year.

Oh and to throw in a stat...Romo has the highest 4th quarter rating in the NFL over the past 5 years or something ridiculous like that.

but yeah, he doesn't have what it takes mentally because he banged Jessica Simpson and he doesn't win a Super Bowl with an inferior supporting cast

Got it.

When Tom Brady went down Matt Cassel won 11 games.

When Peyton Manning went down the Colts were so terrible they got Andrew Luck.

Think about that.

Tom Brady > Peyton Manning yet when a college backup took over for him they still managed to win 11 ****ing NFL games.

He got to QB that team.

Manning gets a team that, without him, was the worst team in the NFL and one of the worst teams ever.

NOT EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT; NOT ALL IS EQUAL

[Hootie]

I wouldn't have budged if I were the Ravens. I would have non-exclusively tagged him and then let him go for 2 1st rounders. That team is getting old and no one can convince me you can't find the next Joe Flacco.

Look, if someone had a gun to my head and said Flacco or Alex Smith I'm taking Flacco.

But would I rather have Alex for 2/15 or Flacco for 6/120? OMG. Alex 10 times out of 10. Flacco isn't going to win us a Super Bowl by himself just like Alex won't...both of them need elite talent around them plus luck to win the big one.

So **** paying a guy like that Flacco money.

[houstonwhodat]

This contract is not about Romo.

It's about Jerry Jones.

He's just trying to make news and he did.

Aaron Rodgers' new deal is going to blow em all out of the water, even Brees.

[Hootie]

When has Kobe ever been a closer? Isn't that the definition of an assassin? What has he ever closed? Name a defining Kobe Finals moment. Name 3. I can name 3 from just about every Finals Michael was in.

I think Kobe may have been the most valuable player on his team 1 team (and that's being generous) on his 5 championships. (In the postseason, not over the entire course of the season)

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

When has Kobe ever been a closer? Isn't that the definition of an assassin? What has he ever closed? Name a defining Kobe Finals moment. Name 3. I can name 3 from just about every Finals Michael was in.

I think Kobe may have been the most valuable player on his team 1 team (and that's being generous) on his 5 championships. (In the postseason, not over the entire course of the season)

Game 4 against the Pacers in his first NBA finals is the easiest example.

Jalen Rose slid his leg in under Kobe during a jumper in Game 2 and sprained his ankle (because Jalen Rose is a punk). Kobe missed game 3 and the Pacers won to draw it to a 2-1 series.

Game 4 was pivotal as hell and ended up in overtime where Shaq fouled out. Kobe completely owned that overtime period, made 3 huge baskets and stole the win on the road to make it a 3-1 series. Had they lost that, the Pacers would've won 2 in a row to tie the series at 2-2 and the Pacers throttled the Lakers in game 5 which would've given them a 3 game winning streak and all the momentum in the world.

Without that win, without that performance from Kobe, the Lakers very likely don't win the 2000 NBA Championship and suddenly that era could've gone very very differently.

Oh there are other examples as well, but that's the most glaring.

People that don't want to like Kobe don't ever remember stuff like that, but there's a ton of it. It doesn't bother me - it is what it is. The Jordan fans think they have to belittle Kobe to make sure that there remains separation between them. I don't get it; there's going to be separation between the two even if you give Bryant every drop of credit he's earned.

It just is what it is.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Game 4 against the Pacers in his first NBA finals is the easiest example.

Jalen Rose slid his leg in under Kobe during a jumper in Game 2 and sprained his ankle (because Jalen Rose is a punk). Kobe missed game 3 and the Pacers won to draw it to a 2-1 series.

Game 4 was pivotal as hell and ended up in overtime where Shaq fouled out. Kobe completely owned that overtime period, made 3 huge baskets and stole the win on the road to make it a 3-1 series. Had they lost that, the Pacers would've won 2 in a row to tie the series at 2-2 and the Pacers throttled the Lakers in game 5 which would've given them a 3 game winning streak and all the momentum in the world.

Without that win, without that performance from Kobe, the Lakers very likely don't win the 2000 NBA Championship and suddenly that era could've gone very very differently.

Oh there are other examples as well, but that's the most glaring.

People that don't want to like Kobe don't ever remember stuff like that, but there's a ton of it. It doesn't bother me - it is what it is. The Jordan fans think they have to belittle Kobe to make sure that there remains separation between them. I don't get it; there's going to be separation between the two even if you give Bryant every drop of credit he's earned.

It just is what it is.