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Old 02-11-2014, 02:42 PM   #1
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That was more about Indy being desperate/stupid than anything.
Hey, maybe both guys sucked and had to go. It's Cleveland, so I don't know the answers. That owner's now fired 2 coaches, 2 GMs and a CEO in his short stint as owner, and he's now got a CEO, GM and HC who all report directly to him instead of it being a HC/GM/CEO sort of chain of command. I just found it funny that people had the knives out already, without knowing the story.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:43 PM   #2
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These guys got a 1st round pick back for Trent Richardson .....
Exactly what i was thinking. Also, it seems like they just hired Lombardi.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:45 PM   #3
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Exactly what i was thinking. Also, it seems like they just hired Lombardi.
they also just hired Chud, Norv, and Horton, how did that work out.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:09 PM   #4
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These guys got a 1st round pick back for Trent Richardson and you people are badmouthing them?


This is true, but they are just gonna turn around and draft another one. You can try and bring in a FA, but there are only so many Priest Holmes that work out that way. You're better off drafting one.
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:03 PM   #5
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This is true, but they are just gonna turn around and draft another one. You can try and bring in a FA, but there are only so many Priest Holmes that work out that way. You're better off drafting one.
If you have a conversation today about lets say in no order, the top 5 running backs in the league.

Charles, Ap, Lesean McCoy, Marshawn Lynch, and, um, Forte just for giggles, only two of those were top 10 picks, only two of them were first rounders, and only one succeeded with his original team.

The Browns, will not pick a running back in the first round this year.

Trent Richardson, was a severe overreach. I have problems dealing with that, because I really liked him. But, they did him no favors in Cleveland, and getting a first for him was pure genius. Its not the moves apparently that has everyone hating Banner. Its, WORKING FOR BANNER, that is coming out as the problem. In that hes a complete dick head that no one likes.

Hard to work like that.
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:30 PM   #6
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If you have a conversation today about lets say in no order, the top 5 running backs in the league.

Charles, Ap, Lesean McCoy, Marshawn Lynch, and, um, Forte just for giggles, only two of those were top 10 picks, only two of them were first rounders, and only one succeeded with his original team.

The Browns, will not pick a running back in the first round this year.

Trent Richardson, was a severe overreach. I have problems dealing with that, because I really liked him. But, they did him no favors in Cleveland, and getting a first for him was pure genius. Its not the moves apparently that has everyone hating Banner. Its, WORKING FOR BANNER, that is coming out as the problem. In that hes a complete dick head that no one likes.

Hard to work like that.
Agreed but I think Jim Brown was right in his analysis of TR that he is soft and not just his physical play but you can see now his 'me first, sour attitude' as well which is also mentally soft.
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:46 AM   #7
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:51 AM   #8
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Guess Lombardi will be back on the BS Report.
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:54 AM   #9
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I guess it makes sense that they needed to promote Farmer, you couldn't get a new GM to come there now with a questionable coaching hire that he didn't make, to start draft prep and such in mid February
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:59 AM   #10
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I guess it makes sense that they needed to promote Farmer, you couldn't get a new GM to come there now with a questionable coaching hire that he didn't make, to start draft prep and such in mid February
They’ve been turned down by several coaches offered the HC job and they all cited the dysfunctional front office as why. So I’m assuming a change had to be made just to get a coaching staff in there.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:03 AM   #11
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They’ve been turned down by several coaches offered the HC job and they all cited the dysfunctional front office as why. So I’m assuming a change had to be made just to get a coaching staff in there.
Yep. But I don't think Ray is a great hire. Maybe he's the best option at the moment.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:07 AM   #12
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Yep. But I don't think Ray is a great hire. Maybe he's the best option at the moment.
Why do you think Ray is not fit for GM duty?
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Why do you think Ray is not fit for GM duty?
What has he accomplished? I seriously don't know. Do you? Was he a great scout? Can he find hard to find talent? Does he know numbers well? Does he draw up great contracts? Is he a wizard capologist? Seriously, what has he done?
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Good for Farmer. He deserves it.

At least Haslam is admitting a wrong.
This is where I am. It's hilariously bad, but at least they're not rolling with the train wreck all season.
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They’ve been turned down by several coaches offered the HC job and they all cited the dysfunctional front office as why. So I’m assuming a change had to be made just to get a coaching staff in there.
That wouldn't be a surprise I guess. At least ownership figured out who the problem was...
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